Ultimate Building Blocks: NFC East

Gets run to the sidelines by tight ends against the run, can't cover a soul if asked to, plays upright and at times, just downright soft, c'mon, keep going. He's overrated because of all the reasons you just named.

Mosley said he's worth Haynesworth money. Go on. Give it to him, I dare ya.

He's either the best or second best defensive player the Cowboys, but that team hasn't exactly been the hallmark of defense over the last three years. On our defense, he'd be our third or fourth best defensive player. But he also wouldn't be overrated because of that ugly star on the side of his helmet.


hahaha what a joke Gtripp I like you bro but really you need to become a fan of another sport.... really. he's knowned as one of the best if not the best OLB agaisnt the run, he's consider a complete player becasue he's one of the best passrushers outthere and can play teh run adn the pass.....

he's a guy that isn't loud just make plays... but hey if you rather have a big mouth in your team be my guest.

hahaha what a joke Gtripp I like you bro but really you need to become a fan of another sport.... really. he's knowned as one of the best if not the best OLB agaisnt the run, he's consider a complete player becasue he's one of the best passrushers outthere and can play teh run adn the pass.....

he's a guy that isn't loud just make plays... but hey if you rather have a big mouth in your team be my guest.If that big mouth is Terrell Suggs, then yes, I would much prefer the mouth.

To call Ware a franchise building block, or a unit building block, is to suggest the Cowboys have failed to put enough talent around him to cash in his sack production. So which one is it: are you overrating DeMarcus Ware, or am I underrating the greatest defensive player of our time, and the Cowboys simply can't figure out what a good defensive player looks like to put around him?

Agreed. Ware is great at simply getting to the QB, but I'd take Peppers or Freeney over him for sure.

Dude Peppers and Freeney are pressure players they aren't grerat agaisnt the run and they'e DE in the 4-3 they NEVER go cover TE or WR so is stupid

and in their best feture which is getting to the QB this are the stats.

Ware 4 Season in the NFL sacks 53.5 age 26
Freeny 7 Season in the NFL First 4 season 51 sacks last 4 seasons 30.5 age 29

Peppers 7 Season in the NFL First 4 season 40.5 sacks last 4 season 40.5 Sacks age 29

So you're telling me that you would rather take 2 DE that even in their prime couldn't put the numbers Ware has and are 3 years older with injuries and obvious have worse numbers in the past 4 years... please don't run for GM

If that big mouth is Terrell Suggs, then yes, I would much prefer the mouth.

To call Ware a franchise building block, or a unit building block, is to suggest the Cowboys have failed to put enough talent around him to cash in his sack production. So which one is it: are you overrating DeMarcus Ware, or am I underrating the greatest defensive player of our time, and the Cowboys simply can't figure out what a good defensive player looks like to put around him?

look it's neither Dallas has a good building Block surroundig Ware heck Dallas was leader in sacks last year and the 8th best defense they needed improvemnet in the secondary we all new that. we needed to get ridd of Roy Williams and we did and the CB's we drafted last year are pretty good.

Still the biggest problem with the defense is over confidence and lack of consistency they play great for a few games then they believe they're the best defense out there and get humiliated by Baltimore and the Eagles... What I believe it lacks is leadership and a cold head... not talent.

Now Sluggs please he's in the best or second best defense in the league you can't argue that and still he can't post Ware type of numbers. 6 years in the league 40 sacks in his first 4 years and 30.5 in the past 4 going backwards he's only 26 he's been in the league 2 more years than Ware and has half a sack less. please, in one of the best defenses in the league and they only ask him to put pressure.... He's WAAAY Overated he had 5 in 2007 playing every game that's less than 1 sack every 3 games.

Dude Peppers and Freeney are pressure players they aren't grerat agaisnt the run and they'e DE in the 4-3 they NEVER go cover TE or WR so is stupid

and in their best feture which is getting to the QB this are the stats.

Ware 4 Season in the NFL sacks 53.5 age 26
Freeny 7 Season in the NFL First 4 season 51 sacks last 4 seasons 30.5 age 29

Peppers 7 Season in the NFL First 4 season 40.5 sacks last 4 season 40.5 Sacks age 29

So you're telling me that you would rather take 2 DE that even in their prime couldn't put the numbers Ware has and are 3 years older with injuries and obvious have worse numbers in the past 4 years... please don't run for GMSpeaking of pure sacking ability, Ware has an advantage that the other two don't have in that he can be lined up against weaker tackles as a LB, and oftentimes, come totally unblocked.

Now, I don't speak for GMScud when I say this, but if the argument is "building blocks", I'm taking the 26 year old with Ware's pass rushing ability. That's easy. Of course, the fact that I can find better players than Ware in the NFL makes that sort of irrelevant. Suggs is 26, for example. Mario Williams is 25. Merriman is 26. Gaines Adams and Chris Long are younger guys who have the potential to reach that level. Orakpo is a green-ass rookie, but same deal.

Of course the thread is about NFC Building blocks. You need to take Haynesworth. And you need to take Tuck. Those are the best defensive lineman in the division. And honestly, how many pass rushers are going to be on this team of ten? Sure, you could use DeMarcus Ware as a super-pass rusher, but then you don't get to pick a receiver, or a runningback, or a corner, or somebody who makes a more balanced team. So it's perfectly defensable to leave Ware off the list without disrespecting his abilities.

It's not as defensable to be ignorant to the fact that the guy has noticable weaknesses.

look it's neither Dallas has a good building Block surroundig Ware heck Dallas was leader in sacks last year and the 8th best defense they needed improvemnet in the secondary we all new that. we needed to get ridd of Roy Williams and we did and the CB's we drafted last year are pretty good.

Still the biggest problem with the defense is over confidence and lack of consistency they play great for a few games then they believe they're the best defense out there and get humiliated by Baltimore and the Eagles... What I believe it lacks is leadership and a cold head... not talent.

Now Sluggs please he's in the best or second best defense in the league you can't argue that and still he can't post Ware type of numbers. 6 years in the league 40 sacks in his first 4 years and 30.5 in the past 4 going backwards he's only 26 he's been in the league 2 more years than Ware and has half a sack less. please, in one of the best defenses in the league and they only ask him to put pressure.... He's WAAAY Overated he had 5 in 2007 playing every game that's less than 1 sack every 3 games.So you're convinced then that the Cowboys will be an improved defensive unit this year? I mean, you're arguing that Ware makes people around him better, that he's irreplacable to the team and such. I assume you're then saying that last year's unit was full of underachievers (Henry, Williams, Ellis, DC Stewart) that held him down and have since been outed.

So essentially, if the Cowboys defense isn't improved this year, a lot of the blame has to fall on Ware not being who you think he is? Generally speaking, of course.

So you think Orakpo without doing anything in the league deserves to be more on that list that Ware the runnerup for DPOY REALLY? Funny

Now Sluggs please he's in the best or second best defense in the league you can't argue that and still he can't post Ware type of numbers. 6 years in the league 40 sacks in his first 4 years and 30.5 in the past 4 going backwards he's only 26 he's been in the league 2 more years than Ware and has half a sack less. please, in one of the best defenses in the league and they only ask him to put pressure.... He's WAAAY Overated he had 5 in 2007 playing every game that's less than 1 sack every 3 games.Suggs is THE complete NFL 3-4 OLB. He's the prototype.

Though, since you're a Cowboys' fan, I won't bother to question your authority on the concept of going backwards. I can only wish to one day understand that concept like you do.

So you think Orakpo without doing anything in the league deserves to be more on that list that Ware the runnerup for DPOY REALLY? FunnyNah. Orakpo made my list because I wanted a prospect on my building blocks list, since neither Haynesworth or Tuck is young. Not because I think he's entitled to be a better player than Ware. Not at all what I was saying.

I think he can become a better player than Ware, but it will take time. Thus, you know, the point of a list about "building blocks".

So you're convinced then that the Cowboys will be an improved defensive unit this year? I mean, you're arguing that Ware makes people around him better, that he's irreplaceable to the team and such. I assume you're then saying that last year's unit was full of underachievers (Henry, Williams, Ellis, DC Stewart) that held him down and have since been outed.

So essentially, if the Cowboys defense isn't improved this year, a lot of the blame has to fall on Ware not being who you think he is? Generally speaking, of course.

I don't think the defense is going to be better because of Ware I do believe they're going to be better because of the changes that were made. Stewart Please the defense got better last years when Wade starting calling plays so that's an easy one.

Getting rid of Ellis who was just used in pressure plays and give Spencer the opportunity after learning for 2 years to be the other OLB yeah I think will get stronger apply more pressure and better. Now Safety Getting rid of Roy and getting Sensabaugh is a huge improvement in coverage one that will let the CB play more man and less zone like we did the previous years. I liked Henry but he was getting old and losing speed and our young cb's of last year Scandrick and Jenkins proved they can handle the load and if they don't get in the 2nd year slump they should get better plus a healthy Newman he makes a huge difference.

Now losing Canty was big but getting Olshansky is almost a wash Canty had tons of potential but he could disappear for games.... if he played to his potential man Canty could be one of the best in the game but he hasn't.

The Defense should be better younger and faster but that's bering injuries that's what you never know.