Brunell is starting Monday Night

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skins009
09-25-2004, 08:37 PM
This is the right move. I love Ramsey too, but he needs time to learn the offense. But I agree he might be getting some time on monday night.

Daseal
09-25-2004, 09:50 PM
Is there a greater chance that Brunell will re-aggrivate his injury and make it worse in the long-run if he plays? All I know is the same injury sidelined vick for 3-4 weeks. Obviously Vick and Brunnell are a world apart, but still!

BrunellFan
09-25-2004, 11:29 PM
Is there a greater chance that Brunell will re-aggrivate his injury and make it worse in the long-run if he plays? All I know is the same injury sidelined vick for 3-4 weeks. Obviously Vick and Brunnell are a world apart, but still!

This same injury sidelined Vick for 4 weeks!??!

And Brunell is gonna play the very next week...

Brunell being in his mid-30's and Vick being in the 'prime' of his career?

Maybe Vick's the one who 'needs to take the diapers off'

That Guy
09-26-2004, 12:06 AM
i think (from all the interviews with brunell i've read and seens this week), that he's honestly afraid of losing his job again... he got injured in jacksonville and never re-entered the line up, so he might be pressing here to make sure can stay on the field... (and he probably knows that his performances thus far haven't been very awe-inspiring or given the coaches a really obvious decision of who to start....)

I'd like to see him throw it deep and actually hit a receiver though... so far he hasn't been able to get it deep AND into someone's hands...

Hogskin
09-26-2004, 12:12 AM
Rather have some sort of offense and interceptions than little dump passes and fumbles like Brunell has done.

Not I. And downfield passes followed by INT's is DEFINITELY not Gibbs football. Even Riggins, who was not a fumbler, earned a spot on the bench at the end of his career after a long run in a critical situation - the ball was knocked out of his hand and turned over. Gibbs hates turnovers more than anything. Three turnovers in less than a half sounds an alarm on a Gibbs team.

Daseal
09-26-2004, 08:05 AM
Brunell turned it over twice and didn't drive us down the field after the initial drive. At least Ramsey created some sort of offense. We should have been running it in the red-zone anyways.

That Guy
09-26-2004, 08:52 AM
i really kinda wanted to see ramsey play, and really i don't think either one was any better than the other against the giants... you said you don't get the starting spot with 3 ints, but brunell has had 2 fumbles returned for touchdowns and an int, yet he's starting ;)

Hogskin
09-26-2004, 10:08 AM
i really kinda wanted to see ramsey play, and really i don't think either one was any better than the other against the giants... you said you don't get the starting spot with 3 ints, but brunell has had 2 fumbles returned for touchdowns and an int, yet he's starting ;)
Well, I'm not the one that said that (and I don't believe in a general statement like that), BUT...

Brunell has had one INT in 6 Q's, Ramsey 3 INT's in 2 Q's

Brunell has fumbled 3 times in 6 Q's, 2 for turnovers. Ramsey fumbled 2 times in 2 Q's, and was fortunate that neither resulted in a turnover. And the majority of all those 5 fumbles were caused by OL. On Brunell's fumble when he tried to hand off to Portis as he was falling because someone was standing on his foot, you could say he should have been smart and just taken the loss. But in many similar situations, when the RB DOES get the handle on the ball, the QB gets rave reviews for making the play, so it is hard to say he was totally wrong for trying (although, after the fact, I sure wish he had not)

In any case, those stats from such a short period of time should not solely determine a starter, but no matter how you do the math, that does not come out in Ramsey's favor, and it does not come out anywhere close to even.

Gmanc711
09-26-2004, 10:36 AM
I think the bigger issue here is Brunell's health. There is NO WAY hes at 100%. He's putting himself at a huge risk giong out there on Monday night. I honestly wouldnt be shocked if hes outta the game by halftime.

SkinsRock
09-26-2004, 10:37 AM
Gibbs has made Brunell the starter, and as long as he's healthy enough to play, he will. I think he also has confidence in Ramsey, but he is sticking with his decision....for now. If Ramsey hadn't thrown 3 picks and had won the game last week, who knows, but that's not what happened. That said, I still like Ramsey a lot and think he is the future for this team.

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