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GTripp0012 05-28-2009, 12:07 AM Nice post. I actually didnt know that stat about the 1st and 10s. Thats actually pretty impressive. Watching the Skins last year it really didnt feel like we were that successful starting drives. I guess the offenses failure to score on a regular basis made me feel that way. It just seemed like we punted so much last year. I guess the offense stalled after we picked up a little steam on drives. You would think the way the offense slowed down we would of had more 3 and outs. Thats pretty interesting.I guess I could sum up last season like this: The offense was more frustrating than bad, the defense was more mediocre than frustrating, and Suisham was just incredibly frustrating.
Brian Orakpo 05-28-2009, 12:09 AM I guess I could sum up last season like this: The offense was more frustrating than bad, the defense was more mediocre than frustrating, and Suisham was just incredibly frustrating.
:laughing2
Id agree with that 100%.
redskins1974 05-28-2009, 12:18 AM I guess I could sum up last season like this: The offense was more frustrating than bad, the defense was more mediocre than frustrating, and Suisham was just incredibly frustrating.
In other words, the defense was better then the offense, which was my arguement the entire time with you.
GTripp0012 05-28-2009, 12:25 AM In other words, the defense was better then the offense, which was my arguement the entire time with you.Well, no, I'm not saying that. Nor am I saying the opposite.
I'll say this: the offense declined more over the course of the four month season than the defense did. It also had further to go from the first five games. By the end of the season, the offense was less frustrating, and more undermanned. It featured names like Heyer and Fabini. There was really no upside there.
The defense was consistently underachieving what it could have been. For the final three games, when they were below average, their best defensive player was coming off the bench, and they were blitzing into teams who were plenty prepared to protect the QB. And they were performing at a level that undermined their talent.
Our horses were on the defensive side last year, but I'm not willing to say that they were more responsible for our wins than the offense. I'm not sure if I believe that or not.
Paintrain 05-28-2009, 12:26 AM Our offense was good enough to support 11 wins? in what, soccer?
The team tried hardest to find a new QB, in both free agency and the draft.
If "the team" (Snyder) was determined to get either Cutler or Sanchez, it would have happened. We could have easily offered our 1st and 3rd this year plus our 1st and 2nd next year for Cutler and that would have trumped any offer. We could have offered our #1 this year and next year to go get Sanchez. Don't be a media sheep and believe every exaggerated rumor.
The defense blew the St. Louis game, Cincy game and SF game. 8+3=11.
Paintrain 05-28-2009, 12:29 AM I didn't read every page of the thread so I don't know if anyone repeated what Terl said on Redskins Blog. Basically he said you have to be REALLY down on Campbell for him to offset 2 Pro Bowlers in the backfield and drag them to #26.
53Fan 05-28-2009, 12:32 AM I didn't read every page of the thread so I don't know if anyone repeated what Terl said on Redskins Blog. Basically he said you have to be REALLY down on Campbell for him to offset 2 Pro Bowlers in the backfield and drag them to #26.
Good point. We had a pro bowl RB and a pro bowl FB and yet our backfield is ranked 26th. :doh:
Brian Orakpo 05-28-2009, 12:32 AM The defense blew the St. Louis game, Cincy game and SF game. 8+3=11.
Id go out on a limb and say the offense blew both Giants games, the Rams game, the 2nd Cowboy game, the Steelers game, the Ravens game, and the Bengals game. 8+7=15. :laughing2
GTripp0012 05-28-2009, 12:32 AM The team tried hardest to find a new QB, in both free agency and the draft.Well, what that proves is that the team is quite convinced that neither of our two backups will ever be as good as Campbell.
I don't blame them for looking for ways to improve our passing game, but I question the wisdom of any trail of thought that ends up at Jay Cutler or Mark Sanchez. There's a few guys who could improve our QB situation in this league, but none of them would ever be "available."
GTripp0012 05-28-2009, 12:38 AM Id go out on a limb and say the offense blew both Giants games, the Rams game, the 2nd Cowboy game, the Steelers game, the Ravens game, and the Bengals game. 8+7=15. :laughing2I get the point that both units were responsible in pretty much all of our loses, Cincinnati, SF, and St. Louis included, but Paintrain simply named games where inexcusable defensive mistakes were the entire difference in the score. While the offense could have played better in every single one of our losses, the margin of defeat was so wide that it wouldn't have matted if the defense hadn't also improved. And I think the one exception to the rule might have been the first Giants game.
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