Trample the Elderly
05-27-2009, 12:50 PM
Are you simply that stupid of a man? Or are you so f'ing lazy you can't even bother to look up the word Hispanic (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hispanic)? For f*ck sake man get your act together. Portuguese are neither Hispanic nor Latino.
F you Saden. I am so-called Hispanic. It's a made up term and so is Latino. You're not as smart as you think you are.
saden1
05-27-2009, 12:59 PM
F you Saden. I am so-called Hispanic. It's a made up term and so is Latino. You're not as smart as you think you are.
I am not as smart as I think I am but when I talk about something I try to know what I'm talking about. You on the other hand don't make any effort. It's like you're handicapped and if that's the case I apologies.
Made up term indeed.
CRedskinsRule
05-27-2009, 01:05 PM
Are you simply that stupid of a man? Or are you so f'ing lazy you can't even bother to look up the word Hispanic (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hispanic)? For f*ck sake man get your act together. Portuguese are neither Hispanic nor Latino.
So are we going to be excited when an Azerbaijanee is put on the court? Do we have to have one representative from every dialect and race and nationality appointed to the court before we stop citing it as a quality? I am pretty sure that every person appointed is unique in some way, so must we now always sort that out? She is the first woman who wears her hair in pig tails. He is the first male named Robert who is not called Bob by all his peers. It gets redundant and ridiculous. As MLK Jr called for, let each person be known by their character, integrity, and honor instead of by the race they were born a member of. (obviously paraphrased)
Trample the Elderly
05-27-2009, 01:12 PM
I am not as smart as I think I am but when I talk about something I try to know what I'm talking about. You on the other hand don't make any effort. It's like you're handicapped and if that's the case I apologies.
Made up term indeed.
Just because you try to understand something doesn't mean you do. If three frogs are sitting on a log and one decides to jump off there are still three frogs on a log. You'd have made a good Greek slave, smart in your own pompous way. In the end you'd do the bidding of a Roman who didn't give a damn about your high ideals and stupid ass idealism.
saden1
05-27-2009, 01:25 PM
So are we going to be excited when an Azerbaijanee is put on the court? Do we have to have one representative from every dialect and race and nationality appointed to the court before we stop citing it as a quality? I am pretty sure that every person appointed is unique in some way, so must we now always sort that out? She is the first woman who wears her hair in pig tails. He is the first male named Robert who is not called Bob by all his peers. It gets redundant and ridiculous. As MLK Jr called for, let each person be known by their character, integrity, and honor instead of by the race they were born a member of. (obviously paraphrased)
Diversity matters, it's that simple. I don't understand why people are acting as if she was selected solely based on the fact that she's a Hispanic. It is one factor among many and that is OK.
It's easy to drag the matter through the gutter with a slippery slope argument and it's even easier and reasonable when you're in the majority.
firstdown
05-27-2009, 01:30 PM
A socialist Hispanic at that.
saden1
05-27-2009, 01:41 PM
Just because you try to understand something doesn't mean you do. If three frogs are sitting on a log and one decides to jump off there are still three frogs on a log. You'd have made a good Greek slave, smart in your own pompous way. In the end you'd do the bidding of a Roman who didn't give a damn about your high ideals and stupid ass idealism.
You are unique and special. I have no doubt you only speak the truth and are more than capable of filling Moses' shoes if called upon.
Oh, who I'm I kidding...you're as smart as a peanut butter biscuit laced with salmonella.
FRPLG
05-27-2009, 01:51 PM
Diversity matters, it's that simple. I don't understand why people are acting as if she was selected solely based on the fact that she's a Hispanic. It is one factor among many and that is OK.
It's easy to drag the matter through the gutter with a slippery slope argument and it's even easier and reasonable when you're in the majority.
I always love the argument that the opinions of members in the majority are less important or less valuable simply because they're in the majority. White people certainly aren't capable of understanding or even discussing matters involving race of course.
I don't know that people are acting like she was only elected based on her ethnicity but then again it was used as qualifying factor. She herself frames the opinions and public perception of her through the prism of her ethnicity adn gender.
Slingin Sammy 33
05-27-2009, 02:03 PM
Diversity matters.... It is one factor among many and that is OK.
In matters of law it's not supposed to matter. Race, gender, etc. shouldn't be considered. There's a reason Justice is depicted with a blindfold.
Obama stated he would nominate someone in the judical mainstream, with this pick he definitely did not do what he stated. This is a bad nomination, Obama should've done better homework.
Her legal reasoning should be called into question, a 1-5 with one pending is not a good record on cases reviewed by the SC.
Possible Controversial Positions and Statements
• Wrote the 2008 opinion supporting the City of New Haven's decision to throw out the results of a firefighter promotion exam because almost no minorities qualified for promotions. The Supreme Court heard the case in April 2009 and a final opinion is pending.
• Sided with environmentalists in a 2007 case that would have allowed the EPA to consider the cost-effectiveness of protecting fish and aquatic life in rivers and lakes located near power plants. Was overturned by the Supreme Court.
• Supported the right to sue national investment firms in state court, rather than in federal court. Was overturned unanimously by the Supreme Court.
• Ruled that a federal law allowing lawsuits against individual federal government officers and agents for constitutional rights violations also extends to private corporations working on behalf of the federal government. Was overturned by the Supreme Court.
• At a 2001 U.C. Berkeley symposium marking the 40th anniversary of the first Latino named to the federal district court, Sotomayor said that the gender and ethnicity of judges does and should affect their judicial decision-making. From her speech:
"I wonder whether by ignoring our differences as women or men of color we do a disservice both to the law and society....
"I further accept that our experiences as women and people of color affect our decisions. The aspiration to impartiality is just that - it's an aspiration because it denies the fact that we are by our experiences making different choices than others....
"Our gender and national origins may and will make a difference in our judging. Justice O'Connor has often been cited as saying that a wise old man and wise old woman will reach the same conclusion in deciding cases. I am also not so sure that I agree with the statement. First, as Professor [Martha] Minnow has noted, there can never be a universal definition of wise. Second, I would hope that a wise Latina woman with the richness of her experience would more often than not reach a better conclusion than a white male who hasn't lived that life." [U.C. Berkeley School of Law, 10/26/2001]
Cases Reviewed by the Supreme Court
• Ricci v. DeStefano 530 F.3d 87 (2008) -- decision pending as of 5/26/2009
• Riverkeeper, Inc. vs. EPA, 475 F.3d 83 (2007) -- reversed 6-3 (Dissenting: Stevens, Souter, Ginsburg)
• Knight vs. Commissioner, 467 F.3d 149 (2006) -- upheld, but reasoning was unanimously faulted
• Dabit vs. Merrill Lynch, 395 F.3d 25 (2005) -- reversed 8-0
• Empire Healthchoice Assurance, Inc. vs. McVeigh, 396 F.3d 136 (2005) -- reversed 5-4 (Dissenting: Breyer, Kennedy, Souter, Alito)
• Malesko v. Correctional Services Corp., 299 F.3d 374 (2000) -- reversed 5-4 (Dissenting: Stevens, Souter, Ginsburg, Breyer)
• Tasini vs. New York Times, et al, 972 F. Supp. 804 (1997) -- reversed 7-2 (Dissenting: Stevens, Breyer)
SmootSmack
05-27-2009, 02:15 PM
I was the first half-Hispanic moderator ever on this site (I think)...but did anyone acknowledge that? Nooooooo.
I'm starting to wonder now if I wasn't a token case by Matty?