I think this might be our answer for OLB... (Greg Ellis?)

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Brian Orakpo
05-28-2009, 05:14 PM
They wouldn't convert him from a defensive end at his age, and with his skill set. Let's be realistic.

If he had 20.5 sacks going after the QB standing up in a 3-4 I think if we moved him to OLB in a 4-3 and let him go after the QB like we were planning to do with Orakpo it could work. Instead of placing him at SLB id place him at WLB though. Its easier to get sacks at OLB in a 3-4 because you are pretty much a stand up DE but if the Skins used Ellis as a pass rushing LB at the WLB I think it could actually work.

Monksdown
05-28-2009, 05:20 PM
If he had 20.5 sacks going after the QB standing up in a 3-4 I think if we moved him to OLB in a 4-3 and let him go after the QB like we were planning to do with Orakpo it could work. Instead of placing him at SLB id place him at WLB though. Its easier to get sacks at OLB in a 3-4 because you are pretty much a stand up DE but if the Skins used Ellis as a pass rushing LB at the WLB I think it could actually work.

I don't know that moving Rocky from weak side to accomodate a player we're going to have for 2 seasons max is advisable. IMO.

Brian Orakpo
05-28-2009, 06:14 PM
I don't know that moving Rocky from weak side to accomodate a player we're going to have for 2 seasons max is advisable. IMO.

You could be right. I think if we did get Ellis that would be the best way to improve our defense.

DIRTEE
05-28-2009, 06:42 PM
I think we should just let the two rookies, Fincher, Wilson and Blades play and the best combination should be out there during the season. No need for a top name LB, with shutdown corners and the defensive line we have, we are fine at LB. Just think a few years ago, we had Lemar Marshall and he wasn't stellar, but did a good job. Ellis sounds like another Trotter or Armstead, do you really want that?

Brian Orakpo
05-28-2009, 07:05 PM
I think we should just let the two rookies, Fincher, Wilson and Blades play and the best combination should be out there during the season. No need for a top name LB, with shutdown corners and the defensive line we have, we are fine at LB. Just think a few years ago, we had Lemar Marshall and he wasn't stellar, but did a good job. Ellis sounds like another Trotter or Armstead, do you really want that?

The best option for the team imo is to start Chris Wilson at LB and move Orakpo back to DE on 1st and 2nd downs. Id like to see what Chris Wilson can do at OLB since he has talent and we are stacked at DE.

I wouldnt mind Ellis or Washington coming here if the price is right.

DBUCHANON101
05-28-2009, 07:19 PM
I think on this topic im just going to put faith in the coaches to make the right call. We arent at the workouts and we dont get to see these guys go through the drills. My guess is if we move RAK to SLB that means Daniels is impressing at the DE spot with his new strength he talked about.

Brian Orakpo
05-28-2009, 07:34 PM
I think on this topic im just going to put faith in the coaches to make the right call. We arent at the workouts and we dont get to see these guys go through the drills. My guess is if we move RAK to SLB that means Daniels is impressing at the DE spot with his new strength he talked about.

I think it comes down to the fact that this team likes run stopping LDEs. While Orakpo brings more of a pass rush on every down Daniels is a pretty good run stopper.

I honestly dont like the idea of Daniels at LDE because while you need a guy who can stop the run you also want a DE who can put pressure on QBs. I dont think Daniels can do that when teams pass on 1st and 2nd down.

The team probably does have the best lineup with Daniels at LDE and Orakpo at OLB (with him rushing from DE on 3rd downs) on paper. If this is how its going to be during the season hopefully the coaching staff is right. I would just like to have two DEs on all three downs that I know can get to the QB on a regular basis. I have more faith in Orakpo/Carter than Daniels/Carter.

skinsnut
05-28-2009, 09:05 PM
The best option for the team imo is to start Chris Wilson at LB

Oh boy...thats a major leap of faith...to be honest....I think the reason they are trying Orapko at LB is to see if they dont need Wilson anymore.

Truth is, Wilson is a servicable Pass rushing DE specialist...nothing more.
It will be a shame to lose him...ideally we can trade him for something...maybe a 6th rounder....maybe the Skins are trying to showcase him.

I personally would prefer to keep 3 DE's with pass rushing skills...Wilson is one of them.

I really dont see Wilson working out as a LB...and certainly not any better than the 6th LB.

Brian Orakpo
05-28-2009, 10:28 PM
Oh boy...thats a major leap of faith...to be honest....I think the reason they are trying Orapko at LB is to see if they dont need Wilson anymore.

Truth is, Wilson is a servicable Pass rushing DE specialist...nothing more.
It will be a shame to lose him...ideally we can trade him for something...maybe a 6th rounder....maybe the Skins are trying to showcase him.

I personally would prefer to keep 3 DE's with pass rushing skills...Wilson is one of them.

I really dont see Wilson working out as a LB...and certainly not any better than the 6th LB.

That is a leap of faith. I also realize hes got talent as a pass rusher. Since we have alot of DEs on the roster right now id give Wilson all the chances in the world to fit as a OLB. Hes played the position before in high school, college, and in Canada. If he can adjust to OLB in the NFL it will make our defense that much more explosive. It would also get Orakpo at DE.

skins89moss
05-29-2009, 04:57 AM
We should not even think of giving Dallas a draft pick for Ellis. If he is released then lets talk to him and see what his price range is. As far as his postion he is more effective rushing the passer from the DE spot. He could be a upgrade over Wynn. If he doesnt work out In camp you dont lose a draft pick. NOOOO to a Trade or Draft pick.

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