The Vick Factor

I said yes, but not as a QB. I like him as a slash type player. Get him about 3 to 7 touches a game at various positions and let the points soar.


Im on bored with this as well. I do NOT want him under center. But as stagnant as the offense was at the end of the year was pathetic, and its not just O-line. Cooly and Portis are great, reliable players who can put up numbers, but when it comes to playmakers we only have one and he is doubled most of the time (Moss). We need someone to give this O life, JC is too robotic and overthinks everything at this point, but we can win with him. Vick in the wildcat, on screen pass, getting the ball in space, hell even returning punts...he would be a spark. ARE was suppose to be that guy...he make 1 or 2 plays a year....we need something. Give Vick a 1 year deal, 5-10 touches a game and lets see what happens.

Ill get slammed for this but id rather see Colt start than see us get MV. Colt if anything is a better passer. May not be as strong but is very accurate and in the WCO you dont really need a cannon.

If it was between Colt or Vick, I'd take Colt too.

I totally agree, but if it was between Collins and MV I'd take MV.

lets hope it never comes to it, but colt>vick

I'd take Collins over Vick easily.

Out of curiosity, are you guys saying this because of the:

A) the dog fighting conviction

B) he's been out of the NFL for 2 years and might have lost a step

C) you think that Colt(completely unproven 2nd year NFL QB)/Collins (career backup and master of Al Saunders offense) are actually better QBs then Vick (3 time pro-bowler, NFL HOF record holder, and has lead a team to NFC divisional games)

Out of curiosity, are you guys saying this because of the:

A) the dog fighting conviction

B) he's been out of the NFL for 2 years and might have lost a step

C) you think that Colt(completely unproven 2nd year NFL QB)/Collins (career backup and master of Al Saunders offense) are actually better QBs then Vick (3 time pro-bowler, NFL HOF record holder, and has lead a team to NFC divisional games)Can't speak for the other guys but, A, B are defintely big factors as well as C (Vick - Last two years no QB rating over 76, 15-16 record, last 9 games played 2-7 record).

My beef with Vick is he was a mediocre passer before leaving the game for 2 years. Now he has to shake off some major rust and try to pick up where he left off in his development. His accuracy isn't hot to begin with, and he's a poor fit for a WCO. He's a great athlete and could fit in right away with a team that runs the wildcat, problem is Zorn has no use for the wildcat and I don't see him changing his tune on that.

So yes at this point if I had to choose I would rather take my chances with an unproven young QB in Colt or a veteran in Collins vs. a guy with 2 years of rust on him and someone who was not a good passer to begin with.

I am certainly not a member of the Cult of Colt, I just dont like Vick. I should rephrase my original comment -- colt/collins>vick

Out of curiosity, are you guys saying this because of the:

A) the dog fighting conviction

B) he's been out of the NFL for 2 years and might have lost a step

C) you think that Colt(completely unproven 2nd year NFL QB)/Collins (career backup and master of Al Saunders offense) are actually better QBs then Vick (3 time pro-bowler, NFL HOF record holder, and has lead a team to NFC divisional games)

I sincerely hope you don't intend that Vick should ever be in the hall of fame. Maybe to replace the air fresheners in the urinals...

I totally agree. Where's Colt Brennan when you need him?

I am still one that absolutely thinks Colt could be a good NFL qb. Just needs a chance.

I am still one that absolutely thinks Colt could be a good NFL qb. Just needs a chance.

Unfortunately this team's ownership and a big portion of the fan base are not known for patience.

I think Colt could do well in the WCO. He is accurate and can read defenses very well IMO

Anyone that wants to bring Vick in here to QB is either trying to start an argument or just plane stupid.