The Vick Factor

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Slingin Sammy 33
05-26-2009, 11:17 PM
His last season he was 204-388 for 2474 yds and a 20-13 TD-INT Ratio52.6 Comp % sucks, his TD-INT ratio is nothing to write home about.

Anyone who thinks Michael Vick sucked didnt watch him play. He wasnt a great passer but combined with his running ability he was a combo threat that won games.I guess that's why ATL finished the 2006 season 2-7.

2006 Ranks - Points - 25th, Sacks Allowed - 7th, Sack % - 2nd, Yds per Pass Attempt - 28th. ATL had 18 fumbles in 2006, 9 were by Vick.

Anyone who knows football and watched Vick, knows he struggled once DCs figured out he couldn't throw the ball into the ocean standing on the shore. The guy never learned to read a defense, his HS coach used under 10 plays, Stinespring at VT isn't the best OC in D-I, when Vick got to the NFL he never progressed. Once teams figured out to just keep him in the pocket, he was garbage. He's definitely nothing more than damaged goods now. Let the AFL or someone else deal with this idiot.

DBUCHANON101
05-26-2009, 11:22 PM
^ Agreed

Brian Orakpo
05-26-2009, 11:24 PM
He sucked in that at times he barely could get 100 yards passing in some games. What did the rest of my original post state? Only pure passing QB's win the SB. That isn't BS, that is a fact. Look at McNabb. He had one SB appearance, and that was because as time went by he finally became a really strong passer. Vick is fun to watch, but he won't get to a SB anytime soon. My guess is the Vikings will pick him up to challenge for the starting position. Bottom line is that he is too one dimensional to be highly valued in the NFL.

Im not saying hes a great or even good passer. All im saying is while in Atlanta he went 40-30-1. His last year in the league he threw for 20 TDs and also had 1000 yards rushing. If you say Vick sucks as a passer thats one thing and going by his career completion % id agree with you. When you factor in the complete package he doesnt suck though as a player.

That said like I have posted earlier I wouldnt want Vick on the Skins. Mainly because Campbell has just as much ability as a passer. Im mainly banking on Campbell stepping up his game in a contract year.

Brian Orakpo
05-26-2009, 11:30 PM
52.6 Comp % sucks, his TD-INT ratio is nothing to write home about.

I agree about the completion %. He isnt a good passer. When you factor in his TD-INT ratio with his 1000 yards on the ground he was a good overall player. All im saying is to blanket a statement that Vick sucks is misleading with the numbers he put up in his last year. If you honestly think Vick sucked in 2006 then I dont know what to say.

John Denny
05-27-2009, 02:15 AM
His last 2 years of playing he sucked, 15-16 record, QB rating under 76. Hasn't been in an NFL training program in over 2 years, let alone in a game.

Who says he has to be a full-time starter? Aside from breaking dogs backs over his knee, Vick was born to run the Wildcat offense. He doesn't have to throw the ball! It's essentially a running play. Imagine Vick, Portis, and Betts in the backfield with Moss running downfield and whoever else emerges in the starting lineup. Vick doesn't have to throw but he does have the arm strength to get the ball to the target.
The wildcat offense keeps defenses honest by running backs (qb included) in several directions (right, left and up the middle) which ultimately opens up running lanes.
I'm a dog owner and I think what Vick did was brutal but I want the skins to win so sign the guy to the league minimum (2yrs), let him get his feet under him and cut him loose.
Anybody remember Portis and Samuels defending Vick during the vick circus? They had no problem with dog-fighting and nobody's dick got hard.

Ruhskins
05-27-2009, 02:33 AM
Pretty good article by JLC on Vick. Honestly, I'm amazed at how much this guy (Vick) is being discussed by anyone. Even Redskins-hater Mike Florio is not kicking up much dust about this.

Redskins Insider - Why a Vick/Skins Marriage Seems Unlikely (http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/jason-la-canfora/i-dont-expect-a-vickskins-marr.html)

an23dy
05-27-2009, 02:33 AM
I want to see him go to the Raiders. Then they'll have the fastest players at every skill position. With McFadden, DHB, and Vick you could just stick all of em in the backfield and have em run in different directions and see who can catch em.

MTK
05-27-2009, 09:36 AM
Pretty good article by JLC on Vick. Honestly, I'm amazed at how much this guy (Vick) is being discussed by anyone. Even Redskins-hater Mike Florio is not kicking up much dust about this.

Redskins Insider - Why a Vick/Skins Marriage Seems Unlikely (http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/jason-la-canfora/i-dont-expect-a-vickskins-marr.html)

If there's a name available, chances are the Skins are going to be mentioned. Just how it goes around here.

I agree with JLC, chances are pretty slim and really the move wouldn't make much sense.

30gut
05-27-2009, 10:37 AM
The guy never learned to read a defense, his HS coach used under 10 plays, Stinespring at VT isn't the best OC in D-I, when Vick got to the NFL he never progressed

True, that's why i think his best passing days are ahead of him if he goes to a team with a veteran QB coach and veteran OC/playcaller that run a proven system.

BTW, you forgot to mention that he also rushed for an NFL record 1,000 yards.

SmootSmack
05-27-2009, 11:06 AM
If there's a name available, chances are the Skins are going to be mentioned. Just how it goes around here.

I agree with JLC, chances are pretty slim and really the move wouldn't make much sense.

How much you wanna bet there's a thread about Clarett to the Redskins this time next year?

How I’m Feeling « The Mind of Maurice Clarett (http://mauriceclarett.wordpress.com/2009/05/25/how-i%E2%80%99m-feeling/)

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