The Vick Factor

This thread is about him coming to skins, so were comparing him to Campbell and Colt. Even then hes not a good fit.

Thats what im sayin, he isnt better than what we already have so there is no need to bring that baggage to D.C

I'll agree that I'm totally not sure if he's a good fit for our system. Although I'm not sure if he's not. When MV was first in Atlanta he was so I thought in some form of the "Run and Shoot" under Reeves and possibly Jim Mora. I think he only had a few yrs under the WCO style when they were trying to make him more of a pocket passer. So I'm not sure how well he will do and not sure if this style of WCO will work for him.

I will not deny he has talent. The question is has he lost any of his abilities while locked up not practicing and if so how soon could he get that back if he can at all, but he won't know unless he tries. Now who best to work with him on his technique other then Zorn? From a player stand point. It's like wanting to work with Buges if your a lineman.

To say he's not better then what we already have is an understatement. I believe no one would say Collins is better then MV. and at this point Colt is still rough around the edges so MV may even be better then him talent wise.

I would see no reason to not bring him in and let Zorn work with him. Let him play during preseason to see what he has. If he's better then TC then let TC go and keep MV. If he's not any better then cut MV. If nothing else it gives MV a chance to show other teams if he can cut it or not and perhaps get picked up by another team if we cut him. No harm, No foul.

and...what other bagage does he bring other then him being scrutinized about his dog issues? Drugs? hopefully that issue is resolved also with him being in prison and with him on probation hopefully he has to have random piss tests. So I'm confused as to what other bagage people keep refering to? People brought up him flicking off the fans but if I'm not mistaken it was around the time he was being looked at in the dog issue and fans were probably a little ugly about the issue. No different then on here.

I like the fact that Gibbs has the team looking at high character people now but not looking at people talent wise and trying to make the team better won't get you to the SB any quicker. Sometimes you have to take a chance on someone even if you have to put some extra stipulations in the contract to controll them.

vick probably won't get more than the league minimum. I'd invest that in a talent like Vick. His speed alone could mean the difference of at least one win, maybe more. Think how tired he'd make the Giants and Cowboys defensive line and then we ram Portis down there throats.
And I just want to make one thing clear, Campbell should and will be the starting qb even if Vick were signed. But if I were Zorn, I'd find a way to get Vick on the field.

I agree with you that this is probably Campbell's most important year. And he will have all the tools needed to be a successful quarterback. (line, receivers, and an elite running back). But to be honest with you, dont you think if he was going to get a contract. He would have gotten it by now. To show some kind of confidence in him as our franchise quarterback.

OFF TOPIC, but
I think our OL and Receivers are still weak spot going into this season.

OFF TOPIC, but
I think our OL and Receivers are still weak spot going into this season.


As of right now I would have to agree with you only because there is still no proof the people we have will step up. We all are hoping they will, but I think they are making great strides to improve those situations. Thomas working out with JC and staying after practice to get extra time working on routes and timing I think again "hopefully" will solve the problem atleast giving us one more talented WR and if Kelly steps up then two. I think Davis is making strides to improve also. Then you have to look at all the WR's brought in since the draft. I'm pretty happy with the talent being brought in and what our two last yr are trying to accomplish.

Then there's the O-line. I think getting Dockery back will solidify the left side of the line. Our only concern should be from Center to right. I honestly think the team is planning to put Williams in at RT no matter how heavy he is. I think they have him working out with Buges to get his technique down and if he's fast enough in preseason then he's our fix for that position and Heyer and Jansen will be fighting to either be back ups or Guards. Then we picked up Bridges who already is a solid Guard and actually is pretty big size wise. With these additions I think the line will be a lot bigger and healthier and will be a lot harder to push around. I doubt they do it but could you see a defensive goal line of AH and Williams clogging the center part of the line.

Why would the Skins want another ineffective QB? Especially one with an image problem.

NO!

I wont watch a game that he's dressed as a Redskin. Not one.

^Then enjoy dancing witht he stars or the AFC games. ;)

wow, didn't think I would see so many excuses for this clown. Why should anyone have to be accountable for their actions. And that whole "did the time" shit, seriously, let's be realistic. If you're a felon, you're pretty much a piece of shit in society's eyes. Hope that doesn't break any hearts.

I was listening to the JT show today and everyone was calling in saying they want Vick :doh:. God some of the people who support this team are really stupid.

I did go fishing behind his home on the James River in Suffolk Monday in my boat. I also saw several people fishing behind his house from shore and wondered if having people catching and probably keeping fish could be against his parol. He is not living in this home but he does own it.