The Vick Factor

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30gut
05-26-2009, 10:33 AM
Okay. Is JC in the last year of his contract? Is ARE a full time QB? I honestly think we should cut him if we could and it wouldn't cost us any money. He would play QB. He could sit for one season behind Campbell. Then at theend of the season he should be in shape or before then. I think he would improve us dramatically. Because he can throw the long ball and he is a threat to run. So it causes defense to respect our offense. I am rooting for JC but it would be nice to have Vick as a back up this season...But as far as what position he plays. QB. After he gets back in shape. If Jason doesn't do his thing. We have Vick getting and getting ready to play. By the end of the season or next season.

+1

I think JC is gonna have a good year and earn a contract.
But, there is always the possibility that JC could leave on his own or that JC doesn't have a good enough season by Synder's standards and is gone after this season.

I was a huge fan of Vick, i lived in ATL for 2 years and watched a bunch of Vick's games and the kid can play.
He wasn't the best passer but converted alot of 3rd downs and was one of the most deadly players in the open field ever.
Vick presence was big help in the run game, the threat of a Vick bootleg is enough to keep the backside end/LB honest and prevent them from making plays in the run game. (But, i digress)
I think Vick could become a better passer, it never seemed that he was getting top level coaching at the QB position, and i think Zorn could work wonders with him.

I think Vick makes sense as a back-up QB with a team that has a proven system, a good QB coach, a strong HC and a patient owner.

I think Vick could catch on somewhere, i would like to see him come here, but i don't know if we're the best fit for him.

If Synder is gonna commit to Zorn then i think Vick could work here an insurance policy for a JC injury or if JC leaves.

REDSKINS1980
05-26-2009, 11:29 AM
First and foremost, I think the redskins need to establish the quarterback position. I personnally would invest the time and money in Vick, because he will be on the field trying to prove he deserves to be there and plus to attract a future mult-million dollar contract. The redskins cannot wait till midseason to see if Campbell will produce. They must decide now, will it be Campbell or Vick.

nyredskinsfan
05-26-2009, 11:31 AM
how come people are more willing to accept a druggie, over an animal abuser? just wondering

The dog isn't given a choice whether it wants to fight.

MTK
05-26-2009, 11:32 AM
The chances of Vick coming here is pretty slim, so I'm guessing the decision has already been made.

SmootSmack
05-26-2009, 11:32 AM
First and foremost, I think the redskins need to establish the quarterback position. I personnally would invest the time and money in Vick, because he will be on the field trying to prove he deserves to be there and plus to attract a future mult-million dollar contract. The redskins cannot wait till midseason to see if Campbell will produce. They must decide now, will it be Campbell or Vick.

Welcome to the board...your post doesn't make sense

They must establish the quarterback position. I agree...but how do they expect to establish it by deciding to drop Campbell and invest in Vick when, as you state, he will be trying prove he deserves to be there and attract a future multi-million dollar contract. Isn't that basically what's going on with Campbell this year?

Slingin Sammy 33
05-26-2009, 11:42 AM
First and foremost, I think the redskins need to establish the quarterback position. I personnally would invest the time and money in Vick, because he will be on the field trying to prove he deserves to be there and plus to attract a future mult-million dollar contract. The redskins cannot wait till midseason to see if Campbell will produce. They must decide now, will it be Campbell or Vick.
From a strictly football perspective, look at Campbell's QB rating and the progression over the last three years, then look at Vick's QB rating over his last 3 years playing.

P.S. Before there are any more "Snyder is an idiot" posts, please read the quoted post and be thankful Skins1980 isn't the owner.

REDSKINS1980
05-26-2009, 11:44 AM
I agree with you that this is probably Campbell's most important year. And he will have all the tools needed to be a successful quarterback. (line, receivers, and an elite running back). But to be honest with you, dont you think if he was going to get a contract. He would have gotten it by now. To show some kind of confidence in him as our franchise quarterback.

SmootSmack
05-26-2009, 11:49 AM
I agree with you that this is probably Campbell's most important year. And he will have all the tools needed to be a successful quarterback. (line, receivers, and an elite running back). But to be honest with you, dont you think if he was going to get a contract. He would have gotten it by now. To show some kind of confidence in him as our franchise quarterback.

I can see your point there, I just don't think that the way to establish the QB position is to dump Campbell for basically another project, especially such a project as Vick.

REDSKINS1980
05-26-2009, 11:56 AM
I agree that is no way to do it, but the skins need to stop wishing for that hall of fame rookie quarterback to come in and lead the team to a superbowl. We must make a decision on our franchise quarterback and drive with it.

John Denny
05-26-2009, 12:13 PM
Would love to see him here. Watched him live in highschool, followed him in college and enjoyed watching him in the pros. However i dont see how he would fit in our system and Zorn has pretty much gone on record saying he wouldn't even consider the wildcat offense.

While i don't believe in dogfighting we all know he was used as an example and has certainly paid his dues. Tempted to go drive by his house, idk feel like a stalker haha.

I don't understand why Zorn wouldn't utilize the Wildcat offense. It has been really successful and we'd fly if we had vick running it 10-15 plays a game. Just think, that's 10-15 plays Portis isn't having to grind it out throughout the season which means he'll be fresher for the playoff stretch.
I'm not much of a Vick fan but his talent and speed in undeniable. It will be interesting to see how he bounces back after coming out of jail (mike tyson's fall comes to mind). But I'd much rather sign him and hope for the best as opposed to let Jerry Jones (or anyone else on our schedule for that matter) sign him and cut him loose on us.

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