The Vick Factor

30 yrs ago Vets would not have done a colonoscopy or endoscopy on a dog or cat. The cost to have this done $3000.00 People allow the Vets to perform this type of care for their pets all the time, and due to this the Vets see people as willing to pay whatever it costs to keep the animal alive. Now Vets charge an office visit that is as much if not more then some doctors.

Yes, MV was an asshole for what he did. He got punished and whether anyone thinks it was too hard or not hard enough he paid a price. A judge or jury gave him what they felt he deserved. Part of it based off of how much info he gave to the investigators. He could have easily said no I'm not talking and taken his punishment. If he gave them good info, info that would help lead to other criminals doing the same thing...to help stop animal cruelty then perhaps his punishment was just and fair. Atleast he was doing his part to stop others from doing the same crap he was.

This is a cruel person guys. Obviously not real smart either.

Nope.

That just reminds me of the SNL skit with Seth Myers and Amy Pohler.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LdE4FIYSmk8

Back up cowboy.* In Virginia, torturing a dog is not a Felony as you put it. Animal cruelty is only a misdemeanor. It only became a Felony as you put it cause the Feds were involved.

If the local police would have done their job and investigated the crime MV would have probably only gotten a misdemeanor for the cruelty part. I think the locals saw this case as being bigger then them and requested help from the feds which turned it into felony charges.

Beating your wife is only a misdemeanor. After a 3rd charge in 20 yrs does it becomes a felony. All charges don't have to come from one county or from Virginia either. If you move into VA and have had 2 prior domestic charges then catch a third guess what ....it becomes a felony.


* - ? Cowboy? Why would you start the conversation by insulting me like that. You coulda called me Chief, Crazy Injun, Mook...but, Cowboy? :doh:

Ok, in all seriousness, I never said anything about where it took place. I don't think it really matters to me what state the offense takes place. It could be in a different country for all I care. I think my point is more about the abuse of people vs the abuse of animals & how we seemingly regard a dogs life over a persons. That's all. Virginia never even tip-toed across my mind.

I 100% absolutely apologize if that is how I sounded. I assure you, that was not my intent...my point is, what vick did was habitual, what Romanowski did was not. I in no way will ever condone spousal abuse. To me, there is no weaker man than someone that beats on his wife. I have said this in other threads, but I understand I did not come across properly, I apologize. I hope this clears things up.



It's cool. No big deal. I understand how people feel about the subject, I really do. And I'm not opposed to putting someone like Mike Vick in prison for what he did. It seems to me though that our society gets more upset when they hear about a dog abuser, but barely raise an eyebrow at someone who hurts his family. I mean, unless it's like Chris Benoit or the guy who throws his 3 month old from a moving car. It's not until it is extreme that everyone goes, "OMG! That's terrible." That's really more my point then anything. I guess in that case, Vick falls into that category seeing extent of the nature of his crime.

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The Pro Bowl is over-rated. And so is Mike Vick.

You're right about the ProBowl. John Riggins has said more than once he always hoped not to get voted in. His logic being, why risk an injury on a useless game. Does anyone watch the thing?

How come people try so hard to humanize animals?
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It's not an issue of humanizing animals, it's a fact that our society has become more educated about them, and that knowledge has, I believe, made us more compassionate. That's all. Nothing wrong with a society improving upon itself.

* - ? Cowboy? Why would you start the conversation by insulting me like that. You coulda called me Chief, Crazy Injun, Mook...but, Cowboy? :doh:

Ok, in all seriousness, I never said anything about where it took place. I don't think it really matters to me what state the offense takes place. It could be in a different country for all I care. I think my point is more about the abuse of people vs the abuse of animals & how we seemingly regard a dogs life over a persons. That's all. Virginia never even tip-toed across my mind.


Sorry. lol. I didn't think when using the "Cowboy" term. I totally agree with you. I miss understood you. I guess. I think we are kinda saying the same thing about how some people value animals more then humans. Unfortunatly those people will also say that humans have a choice and can leave on the other hand animals can't.

My issue is the fact that people hold animals in such high regards as if it were their children and due to the fact that some can't have kids they buy animals to fill the gap and there in lies the problem. for some that is.

Everytime I hear someone complain about how much their vet bill was to save said animal I laugh. I guess people think I'm crazy when I say I'd rather pay the $50.00 sleep medicine vs. paying out the butt to save my pets life. I even point out that a hunting accident only costs 25 cents.

Sorry. lol. I didn't think when using the "Cowboy" term. I totally agree with you. I miss understood you. I guess. I think we are kinda saying the same thing about how some people value animals more then humans. Unfortunatly those people will also say that humans have a choice and can leave on the other hand animals can't.

My issue is the fact that people hold animals in such high regards as if it were their children and due to the fact that some can't have kids they buy animals to fill the gap and there in lies the problem. for some that is.

Everytime I hear someone complain about how much their vet bill was to save said animal I laugh. I guess people think I'm crazy when I say I'd rather pay the $50.00 sleep medicine vs. paying out the butt to save my pets life. I even point out that a hunting accident only costs 25 cents.


:lol: That's actually pretty funny.

As I have stated, I have pets. I simply don't put them above MY needs. I feed them & care for them as anyone should for their pets. But I also see them as just that. Pets. Not miniature children or semi-humans. They are animals.

Now, I can understand & do value the fact that they, especially dogs, love unconditionally & a person torturing said animals is betraying that love & trust & it is very sad & disturbing when someone like Vick does what he did. I think what he did was terrible.

But like I said, this country's priorities are backwards when people say, with little conviction, they have no sympathy for a battered wife who's scared to leave her situation & is more likely to jump in front of a bus for a dog. "String him up" for beating a dog, but let a woman say, "He hit me...again" & she gets a "Well, you deserve it. You won't leave." :doh: There's something really wrong with that mentality.

What Vick did was horrible and there is absolutely no excuse for it, but he has paid his debt to society. What I see in our offense is a lack of playmakers. Moss is the only guy I feel like when he does get the ball he can take it to the house or the ability to make an exciting game changing play that gives confidence to the rest of the offense. Cooley and Portis are steady players who can get the first down when needed, they are reliable players. JC plays a little robotic but has big play ability if he would stop over thinking everything. Randle El was suppose to be the game changer, big play, unorthodox weapon of our offense and special teams...he makes a big play once a year, but really hasnt lived up to the hype. I say give Vick a one year deal. I would not trade a pick for him, but wait until he is released and sign to 1 year. Wildcat formation would be exciting to see. Taking swing out passes out of the backfield in space would be exciting to see. Taking reverses, double-reverses from the wideout position would be exciting to see. Getting a screen pass would be exciting to see. Seeing him throw the ball,....not that excited to see. I would NOT want him throwing the ball, but seeing him return a punt or getting the ball in space would be a shot to the offense that we lack. Deffenses would have to game plan for him. 5-10 touches a game, for one year, lets see what would happen.