republicans, is this helping, or hurting your party

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saden1
06-02-2009, 11:53 AM
Perhaps Dr. Tiller received a personal sense of justification from providing a service to victims of rape. I don't believe there's a such thing as an unjustified abortion. Clearly, it's never an easy decision for the mother, regardless of the surrounding circumstances. And if he felt the right thing to do was provide the choice to people who otherwise would not have had an option, then I think you could argue that he was a good doctor doing good work and/or caring for his patients. That's one way to look at it.

But if dudes going to wear a bullet proof vest around town because he's in that much danger, based on political ideology, what do you want me to say when some nutjob kills him after multiple attempts on his life already? Clearly, his self-preservation instincts were either broken, or being suffocated by a perceived selflessness to a minority group.

If his former nurse is right, and he could have had a job anywhere, then the rational move would have been to take a job elsewhere when he first had an attempt on his life. Once you forfeit your right to safety, death becomes more inevitable than tragic.

Clearly, the only justification for not leaving the Wichita area was a perceived sense of moral justification in his actions. It's sort of ironic, isn't it? People wanted this man to lose his license because of a questionable moral compass, but the only rational justification for his actions is a higher sense of what is right. They can't both be right, now can they?

The only certainty appears to be that the party that committed the homicide is guilty of moral wrongdoing.

There are only 3 late term abortion clinics in the entire nation, without him there are only 2.

saden1
06-02-2009, 11:56 AM
Thats what the law said but that was not the case with this doctor and why he had people coming from all over the US. It seems he used that as more of a cover to get away with what he was doing.
George Tiller: a Case Study (http://www.abortionessay.com/files/Tiller.html)

The folks who wrote the case study don't really matter. He was prosecuted with 19 counts of violating the law and was found not guilty on all 19 counts.

firstdown
06-02-2009, 11:57 AM
Perhaps Dr. Tiller received a personal sense of justification from providing a service to victims of rape. I don't believe there's a such thing as an unjustified abortion. Clearly, it's never an easy decision for the mother, regardless of the surrounding circumstances. And if he felt the right thing to do was provide the choice to people who otherwise would not have had an option, then I think you could argue that he was a good doctor doing good work and/or caring for his patients. That's one way to look at it.

But if dudes going to wear a bullet proof vest around town because he's in that much danger, based on political ideology, what do you want me to say when some nutjob kills him after multiple attempts on his life already? Clearly, his self-preservation instincts were either broken, or being suffocated by a perceived selflessness to a minority group.

If his former nurse is right, and he could have had a job anywhere, then the rational move would have been to take a job elsewhere when he first had an attempt on his life. Once you forfeit your right to safety, death becomes more inevitable than tragic.

Clearly, the only justification for not leaving the Wichita area was a perceived sense of moral justification in his actions. It's sort of ironic, isn't it? People wanted this man to lose his license because of a questionable moral compass, but the only rational justification for his actions is a higher sense of what is right. They can't both be right, now can they?

The only certainty appears to be that the party that committed the homicide is guilty of moral wrongdoing.
The rape thing is a very poor choice as I'm sure most victims find out very quickly if they are not prenant and don't need to wait until their third trimester to have an abortion.

Trample the Elderly
06-02-2009, 11:59 AM
What does this have to do with the Republican Party?

hooskins
06-02-2009, 12:03 PM
What does this have to do with the
Republican Party?

Nothing. I am not a big fan of the title, it was clearly created to provoke...

EDIT: I just read the first post, it was about Cheney which makes more sense.

HughHog
06-02-2009, 01:59 PM
I'm a die-hard Repub, but I'll be the first to say that Bush-Cheney was epic fail and gave our party a bad name. Repub is the way to go because Dems are too myopic and naive, but like with every race/nationality, there are good and bad people in both parties.

saden1
06-02-2009, 03:10 PM
I'm a die-hard Repub, but I'll be the first to say that Bush-Cheney was epic fail and gave our party a bad name. Repub is the way to go because Dems are too myopic and naive, but like with every race/nationality, there are good and bad people in both parties.

Oh my, big words for a diehard republican.

firstdown
06-02-2009, 04:02 PM
Oh my, big words for a diehard republican.
Yea us Republicans stick to easy words like learning what the meaning of "is" is.

Miller101
06-02-2009, 04:10 PM
I'm a die-hard Repub, but I'll be the first to say that Bush-Cheney was epic fail and gave our party a bad name. Repub is the way to go because Dems are too myopic and naive, but like with every race/nationality, there are good and bad people in both parties.

Finally! I can agree with a republican about something! I can't believe it!

But, how can your party be the way to go when it has a Disc Jockey leading it?

Miller101
06-02-2009, 04:14 PM
Yea us Republicans stick to easy words like learning what the meaning of "is" is.

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

To be fair with Clinton, he just asked what Congress' meaning of 'is' was. Not what the meaning was. :)

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