Rank the NFC East teams position by position....

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GTripp0012
05-20-2009, 12:29 PM
Philly has the same problem we had going into last year. All of their WR are of similar size and skill set. Jackson, Curtis and Baskett are all burners, not chain movers. That's where they used Westbrook and Celek. Now Maclin, who is going to have to learn an NFL passing tree, is supposed to come in and be a top contributor? I don't really see it.

Dallas has the MOST questions because they lost the best WR in the division from last year. Hate him or not, 67 catches, 1,000+ yards and 10 TD doesn't go un-missed. That's pretty significant to try to replace. R. Williams had one good year, one, and that was with Mike Martz calling the plays. Crayton and Austin don't scare anyone, at all. They made no additions to their WR corp and are expecting Williams to jump by 50+ receptions to be a #1? Shaky at best.

I think it's clear. Moss will produce like always, Randle El will produce similar to last year and if Thomas doubles his production (not a stretch based on all offseason reports) then we should have the class of the division at WR this year.I would say Curtis has been a chain mover his entire career, going back to St. Louis. Avant and Baskett both enjoyed the seasons we wish Thomas and Kelly would have had last year. And Jackson, well, you and I are both high on him. The Eagles' only question is Jeremy Maclin, who comes in as the 4th or 5th WR anyway.

I agree with you that Roy Williams isn't going to up and become a number one receiver, but I'd take him over Santana as my No. 2 option in an explosive offense. I do think that Miles Austin has the stuff to replace Owens in the lineup. I think he has number one potential. Patrick Crayton is definately not a question mark, as he's been one of the more productive third receivers in this league for years now. The Cowboys are thinner at this position, but certainly not bad (even given the ridiculous trade for Williams).

And the Giants, well, I don't think they have question marks as much as they just aren't very good at the position.

Paintrain
05-20-2009, 01:12 PM
I would say Curtis has been a chain mover his entire career, going back to St. Louis. Avant and Baskett both enjoyed the seasons we wish Thomas and Kelly would have had last year. And Jackson, well, you and I are both high on him. The Eagles' only question is Jeremy Maclin, who comes in as the 4th or 5th WR anyway.

I agree with you that Roy Williams isn't going to up and become a number one receiver, but I'd take him over Santana as my No. 2 option in an explosive offense. I do think that Miles Austin has the stuff to replace Owens in the lineup. I think he has number one potential. Patrick Crayton is definately not a question mark, as he's been one of the more productive third receivers in this league for years now. The Cowboys are thinner at this position, but certainly not bad (even given the ridiculous trade for Williams).

And the Giants, well, I don't think they have question marks as much as they just aren't very good at the position.
You may be right on Curtis, I guess I just think of him more as a vertical WR than a possession guy. If Thomas and Kelly had the same production Avant and Baskett had last year we would have been very happy (and won 11 games) but I expect Thomas to exceed both of them this year while they will probably remain stagnant at those numbers.

You are much higher on Austin than I am. I think he's got good tools but he seems to be lacking a certain something that is preventing him from being 'that guy'. I think Williams is a decent #2 miscast as an expected #1. I'd still take Moss for the big play opportunities he presents. To me Crayton is what he is, a #3 who will flash occasional big games but isn't really a reliable weapon. He's like James Thrash-Cowboy style.

Brian Orakpo
05-20-2009, 01:42 PM
Great post orakpo!

Thanks dude. :food-smil

skinsfan69
05-20-2009, 01:53 PM
Eli talent wise is the worst QB in this division and he did ride the the Giants defense to a SB win and I cannot knock them as a team for that.

The Pats win that meeting 9 out of 10 times and Eli tried as hard as possible to give that game to the Pats,so I cannot be told that Eli was the best player that day.

Anyways that is all in the past and I can't wait to see Eli(heading into his first season of his career w/o Buress or any sort of a true #1 WR).

Welcome to McNabbs world and I promise you that Eli doesn't possess what McNabb does to carry his team through out parts of the season.

Talent wise you're probably right. But don't under estimate what Eli did. He stepped his game up when it mattered most. Plus he drove his team down the field for a SB win. I was very impressed with his performace in 07. McNabb threw 3 INTS in his SB. I think McNabb is better though.

pick-ups
05-20-2009, 02:42 PM
Talent wise you're probably right. But don't under estimate what Eli did. He stepped his game up when it mattered most. Plus he drove his team down the field for a SB win. I was very impressed with his performace in 07. McNabb threw 3 INTS in his SB. I think McNabb is better though.
Like I said before about Eli and that final drive....he threw two passes that should've been INTs and was fortunate they weren't.

The Giants offense had amassed 3 points total going into the 4th quarter and if it wasn't for the extraordinary performance by the Giants defense(holding the Pats to 14pts/lowest all year)then what Eli does,doesn't really matter.

McNabb also threw for 357yds and 3 TDs along with those 3 INTs(the last one being a final heave with no time left).

The Eagles offense this season can be one of the best in the league,let alone the division.
They are stacked.

53Fan
05-20-2009, 04:40 PM
You think the Skins have the worst D-line in the division (umm, Haynesworth?) and the Giants in Kevin Boss have a better TE situation than we do?? That's the funniest thing I've seen all day. Cooley is 3x the TE Kevin Boss is 8 days a week.

No doubt. Cooley also had 50 more receptions for almost 500 more yards on a struggling offense. Nobody, NOBODY in their right mind would take Boss over Cooley.

firstdown
05-20-2009, 04:46 PM
Like I said before about Eli and that final drive....he threw two passes that should've been INTs and was fortunate they weren't.

The Giants offense had amassed 3 points total going into the 4th quarter and if it wasn't for the extraordinary performance by the Giants defense(holding the Pats to 14pts/lowest all year)then what Eli does,doesn't really matter.

McNabb also threw for 357yds and 3 TDs along with those 3 INTs(the last one being a final heave with no time left).

The Eagles offense this season can be one of the best in the league,let alone the division.
They are stacked.
Yea but you have to take away style points for McNabb puking on you center.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQo6zt3bWlM

pick-ups
05-20-2009, 04:52 PM
Yea but you have to take away style points for McNabb puking on you center.


You know the crazy thing is that every time McNabb has puked during a drive.....the end result is always a TD(maybe he should puke on every drive):D

firstdown
05-20-2009, 04:58 PM
You know the crazy thing is that every time McNabb has puked during a drive.....the end result is always a TD(maybe he should puke on every drive):D
If I'm correct when he pucked in the SB they did not score and the game was over.

Giantone
05-20-2009, 05:03 PM
Talent wise you're probably right. But don't under estimate what Eli did. He stepped his game up when it mattered most. Plus he drove his team down the field for a SB win. I was very impressed with his performace in 07. McNabb threw 3 INTS in his SB. I think McNabb is better though.


Yup , and we must remember we're talking about the Super Bowl ...if ya need a game to step up in....that's the one to do it!:)Eli's whole playoff run in 07 was great ,again I'll take that over the QB rating system any day.

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