firstdown
05-20-2009, 04:12 PM
if anyone is interested.
The Demise and Removal of the Washington Redskins Logo Petition (http://www.petitiononline.com/wr3s6651/petition.html)
So a grand total of 48 people have signed this petition and I wonder how many of those are friends of the person who started the the petition. They had a show on several years back about sports teams names and mascots. When they got around to talking about the skins they had one lady who was protesting against them. They showed her going to other native Americans and passing out stuff about the skins and she was trying to organize a protest before one of the games. Most of them did not really seem to care and on the day of her protest she was the only person who even showed up. I will say I was embarrassed for how some of the fans treated her and it was made worse because she was with her kids.
jsarno
05-20-2009, 04:18 PM
So a grand total of 48 people have signed this petition and I wonder how many of those are friends of the person who started the the petition. They had a show on several years back about sports teams names and mascots. When they got around to talking about the skins they had one lady who was protesting against them. They showed her going to other native Americans and passing out stuff about the skins and she was trying to organize a protest before one of the games. Most of them did not really seem to care and on the day of her protest she was the only person who even showed up. I will say I was embarrassed for how some of the fans treated her and it was made worse because she was with her kids.
In regards to the petition, what if we all signed a petition to KEEP the logo and STOP stupid lawsuits against getting rid of it. Guarentee we'd have more signatures!
53Fan
05-20-2009, 04:26 PM
What doesn't make sense to me is that it doesn't offend anyone anymore other than those that want to harp on it. It was an offensive word back in the 30's, it's no longer an offensive word. If you called an indian a redskin, he would likely look at you with an odd look and walk away. Why not change the definition from something that suggests it's offensive to something that is a positive? Like how the word GAY meant happy back in the 50's, and it somehow changed over the years to mean homosexual now. The word Redskins to me means a tough team that doesn't quit...maybe the new definition should be "A term of endearment referring to longevity and perserverance." Who would complain if that was the definition?
From the couple of posts I've read on here from people who actually have some NA blood, it doesn't offend them. I will take their word for it over a bunch of activist's who are always looking for something to be offended over. Nice post jsarno. To LBrown43, I get it. Little Big Man was a fantastic movie. :)
firstdown
05-20-2009, 04:27 PM
The Redskins are a private entity. Things don't have to change just because it offends some people. If the Redskins were a government body then by all means have at it and change anything you like to suit everybody.
Being a private company the Redskins aren't obligated to please every person. It's obviously is not hurting them financially because FedEx is sold out until 3026.
If the American Indians have such a problem with the name then please don't give the Redskins any patronage, including bringing attention to the team with various lawsuits.
The word "Redskin" only gets said more when your lawsuits are broadcast on national television.
There is a law about using trade names that are offensive and thats what they are going after. The law says something like if a trade name is offensive then they will not approve and protect the trade name. So if they win that battle then anyone could use the Redskins name as it would no longer be protected by the goverment. So even if the skins lost the case Dan could still use the name and logo stuff but that would not be smart because so could anyone else who want to sell skins stuff.
53Fan
05-20-2009, 04:29 PM
There is a law about using trade names that are offensive and thats what they are going after. The law says something like if a trade name is offensive then they will not approve and protect the trade name. So if they win that battle then anyone could use the Redskins name as it would no longer be protected by the goverment. So even if the skins lost the case Dan could still use the name and logo stuff but that would not be smart because so could anyone else who want to sell skins stuff.
How about "Dirty Dicks" crabs firstdown? :)
firstdown
05-20-2009, 04:41 PM
How about "Dirty Dicks" crabs firstdown? :)
I don't think he has that filed as a registered trade name or are you asking me if I have been there? Yes I have been to dirty dicks.
backrow
05-27-2009, 12:48 AM
There is a law about using trade names that are offensive and thats what they are going after. The law says something like if a trade name is offensive then they will not approve and protect the trade name. So if they win that battle then anyone could use the Redskins name as it would no longer be protected by the goverment. So even if the skins lost the case Dan could still use the name and logo stuff but that would not be smart because so could anyone else who want to sell skins stuff.
Makes you wonder how Supreme Court nominee, Sonia Sotomayor, or for that matter, any current standing Supreme Court judge would rule on the Proud, traditional name of the Redskins! Especially since she has some history with sports rulings:
Supreme Court nominee Sonia Sotomayor well known in sports world - MLB - SI.com (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/baseball/mlb/05/26/sotomayor/index.html)
I wonder what the final outcome would be.
nyredskinsfan
05-27-2009, 09:38 PM
Why do people keep suing the Redskins for their name? Who really cares. Is it really going to make these peoples lives any better if there is no team named the Redskins anymore? If somebody really gets offended that easily I think they have bigger problems.
You forget about the nobel cause factor. Some people have to have something to bitch about, so they find some nobel cause. It doesn't matter that it's a small number of people that are bothered by the name and it doesn't matter that the number of Native Americans (Indians, OMG!!!) who actually SAY they take offfense is miniscule.
Monkeydad
06-03-2009, 12:31 PM
Cleveland Browns is much more "offensive" for several possible meanings.
Cleveland Browns is much more "offensive" for several possible meanings.
Such as?