Indefinite detentions under Obama???

Obama mulls 'indefinite detention' of terror suspects (http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20090514/pl_afp/usattacksguantanamodetention_20090514105450)

Yeah, I am antagonizing here, but some interesting notes going on this week as Obama learns that being President means protecting the country, not attacking the other party.

Also, interesting that this article says White House, not Obama.

Finally, yes there are abuses, but maybe once in a blue moon defending our country means more then acting like there aren't "thugs" out there who will stop at nothing to see us harmed.

you can say what you want, but whom ever is running this country will try to do the right thing. Bush just made alot of bad decisions while in office. i really believe he thought he was doing the right thing. at the end of 4 years history will judge Obama's decisions

I hate this regardless of who holds prisoners without being able to charge them with a crime. If this same stuff was happening to American's over seas people would be screaming bloody murder. Just like people complain and act like it's a terrible act when American's get tortured, but are fine with it when we do it to our enemies. You're either for something or against it -- you can't have a one way argument.

the voice of reason. coming from a puppy kicker:)

I hate this regardless of who holds prisoners without being able to charge them with a crime. If this same stuff was happening to American's over seas people would be screaming bloody murder. Just like people complain and act like it's a terrible act when American's get tortured, but are fine with it when we do it to our enemies. You're either for something or against it -- you can't have a one way argument.

Have you ever looked at the MIA and POW stats?
Also as every American soldier knows, they fall under the country's laws that they serve in. Yes some may scream bloody murder, but if an American commits a crime on foreign soil, they are going to face the justice of that country, sometimes regardless of American pressure.

I hate this regardless of who holds prisoners without being able to charge them with a crime. If this same stuff was happening to American's over seas people would be screaming bloody murder. Just like people complain and act like it's a terrible act when American's get tortured, but are fine with it when we do it to our enemies. You're either for something or against it -- you can't have a one way argument.
Well if we had Americans flying into buildings and doing terrorist stuff I would not give a rats ass what happened to them.

Daseal is right, of course. But i think that in matters like these, it's not so much a detached discussion about right and wrong as it is about choosing a side. We're americans, so we need to look out for our own interests, not those of the rest of the world when the circumstances dictate that they are mutually exclusive. No one else is going to do us any favors in that regard and we really need to stop acting as if it is our moral duty to hold ourselves to a higher standard. Also... it's "indefinite" not indefinate.

Daseal is right, of course. But i think that in matters like these, it's not so much a detached discussion about right and wrong as it is about choosing a side. We're americans, so we need to look out for our own interests, not those of the rest of the world when the circumstances dictate that they are mutually exclusive. No one else is going to do us any favors in that regard and we really need to stop acting as if it is our moral duty to hold ourselves to a higher standard. Also... it's "indefinite" not indefinate.

I plead sickness on the title, I absolutely hate spelling mistakes!

Could a mod please fix it.

Thanks

BleedBurgundy, I understand your stance -- but most of the civilized countries in the world have basically said 'we won't if you won't.' Fact is, if you're okay doing it to other people -- then you better be prepared for it to happen to us and not be able to bitch too much.

Well if we had Americans flying into buildings and doing terrorist stuff I would not give a rats ass what happene
Here's the problem with this, FD. Why are these people in Cuba being held? Because we have suspicions and that's it. If we had evidence we would be able to hold them legally under the constitution. However, we don't have evidence that the folks being held are terrorists.

If a CIA or FBI operative gets caught in say... Iran. Would you be fine if the Iranians tortured them to get information? If you're fine with that, then I have no gripe with your stance. If you're saying we can torture potential terrorists and they can't -- then we have an issue.

CRedskins -- I'm well aware of the MIA / POW stats. My grandmothers first husband is MIA from Korea. To me, it comes down to one thing. Equality on both sides. Do unto others as you would want others to do unto you. If you're pro torture, I can understand and respect that as long as you're fine with Americans being tortured when captured.

I say we follow the Geneva Convention. Since these people are un-uniformed fighters they should be tried and shot. Just like the convention says we have a right to do.