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Sonny9TD 05-15-2009, 09:03 AM What's a TK?
Hey SmootSmack. What's happening. He knows what I mean. But I'm here for discussion purposes. As you know we can agree to disagree with some respect at least. Hope you're doing well Smootsmack. I enjoyed our discussion when we disagreed on a topic but debated with some respect. I forgot what it was now. Ha. Hope to chat with you some more unless the other administrator
wants to kick me off for stating how I feel.
Hogs!
So if people don't agree with your opinion you say don't bother. Pretty arrogant. Not surprising from a TK. I really don't want to rehash JC again. I'm just hoping we win. Even with JC.
Neither do I, that's why I said don't bother.
Not sure what TK means, just spell it out. No need to be obtuse.
CRedskinsRule 05-15-2009, 09:54 AM TK
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Man, I can't even think of anything to fit with it...
I am tired of the FA bashing...
Look around the league. Percentage-wise we are as good as anybody at hitting on these guys. Gross gain we are the best in the league by a wide margin because of our overall volume. Complain about our trading of draft picks. At least that holds water.
I assume you meant FO bashing, not FA bashing?
You're absolutely right about the trading of draft picks, and that's what bothers a lot of fans who are critical of the FO. Yes, the Skins make some great free agent moves and when they actually use their draft picks, they do quite well. We are constantly drawing impact players out of the draft, which is what makes the flippant trading of draft picks so painful. I'm not suggesting I'm absolutely against trading draft picks; they're a commodity like anything else, and if handled properly any commodity can be effectively traded. The problem is that twice in 3 seasons the Skins, in a virtual panic, traded away draft picks for players who did absolutely nothing (TJ Duckett and Jason Taylor). That's not a mistake that should be made twice, especially not in 3 years. Draft picks, even 3rd and 4th rounders, are exceptionally valuable in a league in which, because of injuries, depth is a necessity, and because of the Cap, the draft is the resource for depth.
This discussion is about Jason Taylor and the Jason Talor trade was a collossally stupid one. Regardless, anyone who criticizes the Redskins for making the move will face an instantaneous avalanche of blowhards censuring the individual as nothing more than a reactionary who always condemns the front office, and that's what I'm sick of. Just because one criticizes this trade, as well as the FO's proclivity for making such trades, does not mean one lacks objectivity. If there is a thread about a player whose tenure in Washington was less than successful, than of course there will be criticism and the such criticism is proper and acceptable. On the other hand, if a thread is about the a player's positive affect on the team, then accolades will be awarded to the FO. That's how it is and that's how it should be.
What I fail to understand is why poeple on this thread are referring to effective moves the FO has made in the past, when that has nothing to do with the Jason Taylor debacle. They're simply anticipating an argument that is not being made.
Pocket$ $traight 05-15-2009, 10:10 AM My problem with Taylor is that since the beginning (as it appears now) he didn't want to come here. If he was so "loyal" to the Dolphins, he should've sucked it up and stay with the Dolphins. The Redskins didn't want to re-structure his salary and were willing to pay him 8 mil, even after the terrible season he had due to injuries, yet he still cried b/c the team wanted him to show up for camp.
I never criticized his lack of production. Like I said, if he was loyal to Miami he should've stayed there. If not, he should've sucked it up, (get paid 8 mil, poor guy), and make it to training camp (which he was being paid for!)
If he was such a warrior, he should've handled Parcells ignoring him. And if was such a "character" guy, maybe he should've done what people always criticize players for not doing, which is to fulfill his contract.
People here complaint SO much about the FO, yet in my eyes, here's a player that the front office paid a lot of for, had the misfortune of having a plagued-riden year, and he didn't work out because he wasn't happy. Please, complain about getting a bust like Archuleta or a nut-case like Brandon Lloyd. I wanted Jason Taylor here this year, because I thought he had it in him to have a rebound this year when healthy. Well turns out he wasn't happy and he was cut. So screw him.
Oh yeah, and the next person that mentions the overused line "the Redskins got schooled by Parcells", don't forget to add that Parcells also schooled Jason Taylor.
Well it was obvious that he didn't want to be here and they weren't using him correctly. So he should have stayed for another year? He did us a favor for leaving. You can't criticize him for coming here and then leaving when the situation was obviously a bad one. I think that both sides realized this. Washington added this crap about a workout bonus to make themselves look better. If anyone truly believes that was the reason he left then I have a great deal on some "partial view" seats for you...
The FO tried to put a round peg in a square hole. They also paid 8 million to do it. Shame on them for not researching further and for giving up so much for a guy who probably was going to be dropped.
I cannot blame anyone for trying any work environment for 1 year for 8 million. It isn't Taylor's fault the FO pissed away two more draft picks to sign him.
Sonny9TD 05-15-2009, 10:15 AM Neither do I, that's why I said don't bother.
Not sure what TK means, just spell it out. No need to be obtuse.
Well I was thinking you were TK on another board. If not, my upmost apologies for that and for being obtuse. But if you are we both know obtuse is the last thing I've been towards you. But arrogant is still not an obtuse word.
"Neither do I, that's why I said don't bother".
You're the one making the big deal out of it with your Don't bother statement. If he wants to talk about it let him decide whether to bother or not. Especially since I was talking to him. Not you. Get it.
Sonny9TD 05-15-2009, 10:23 AM TK
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Man, I can't even think of anything to fit with it...
Thrifty knickle?
I'm not TK, no idea who that is. This is my only site.
I'm not making a big deal outta anything. Carry on.
Sonny9TD 05-15-2009, 10:26 AM [QUOTE=CRedskinsRule;557750]TK
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Tool Kid is not bad.
Sonny9TD 05-15-2009, 10:28 AM I'm not TK, no idea who that is. This is my only site.
I'm not making a big deal outta anything. Carry on.
So how do you know I don't like JC so much you had to respond? It sounded personal. Usually people don't say things like you did unless they don't like the messenger. Not the message.
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