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30gut 05-07-2009, 10:51 PM I believe that if we do not get a constant pass rush with Haynesworth in the middle and Orakpo I believe that Blache will be fired and that Aggressive Jerry Gray would take over. Jim Zorn has already stated that we need a big pass rush this season, which is probably the main reason we paid Haynesworth all that money. I'm tired of stopping the run first then pass rush. We need to stop the run on the way to the quarterback. I believe that Blache is holding the d-line back from making a lot of plays. It was like our defense was a bend but don't break defense which helped us to 4th overall defense which I believe is good but not a dominating one. I believe that this defense could be up there with the Pittsburghs, Baltimores and Titans. You win with Championship Defense. If the offense improves and we still do not get to the quarterback then we will be looking at 8-8 again folks. What do you guys think about Blache's scheme? Should he be fired if no improvements in the sack department?
As much as I wish Blache was more creative with the overall scheme on defense, at the end of the day we still had the 4th best.
I just wish we used more disguise to get pressure.
We wouldn't have to bring extra guys all the time if we could create a half second of confusion.
I wish we did some overloads blitzing, some fire-zone and zone-dogs.
But, you don't fire a DC because you don't like his style.
If the pass rush doesn't improve dramatically i think that we need to take a hard look at letting Coach Palermo go kick rocks.
I would love for Coach Gray to take over as DC, but 2 years ago Synder basically begged Coach Blache not to retire to coach the defense how can he then turn around and fire him?
Blache would have to retire for Gray to take over, hopefully Gray will still be around.
Zerohero 05-07-2009, 11:07 PM Will it not be sweet when we can pressure the QB with only our D-lineman??????
I cannot imagine............
That's crazy talk, but just so crazy it might work.
Pocket$ $traight 05-07-2009, 11:19 PM So let me get this straight. Our offense scores 16 points a game and is one of the worst in the league but we are going to fire the guy who led us to the 4th best defense in the league the season after we tragically lose our best defensive player.
Sounds like a great idea... I think the Cutler trade makes more sense than this.
skinsfan69 05-07-2009, 11:22 PM I believe that if we do not get a constant pass rush with Haynesworth in the middle and Orakpo I believe that Blache will be fired and that Aggressive Jerry Gray would take over. Jim Zorn has already stated that we need a big pass rush this season, which is probably the main reason we paid Haynesworth all that money. I'm tired of stopping the run first then pass rush. We need to stop the run on the way to the quarterback. I believe that Blache is holding the d-line back from making a lot of plays. It was like our defense was a bend but don't break defense which helped us to 4th overall defense which I believe is good but not a dominating one. I believe that this defense could be up there with the Pittsburghs, Baltimores and Titans. You win with Championship Defense. If the offense improves and we still do not get to the quarterback then we will be looking at 8-8 again folks. What do you guys think about Blache's scheme? Should he be fired if no improvements in the sack department?
Overall I think GB did a pretty good job considering the talent he had on the front 7. I'm not sure we'll be as good as Pittsburgh's defense cause they have two stud pass rushers and a better overall front 7 and a safety who dominates. I think we have better corners than Pittsburgh. Haynesworth is going to help but he's going to be double teamed on passing downs. Is Carter and Orakpo going be as dominating as Woodley and Harrison coming off the edge? Probably not. I still think we're going to have a very good defense but not quite at the level of Pittsburgh. I'd like to see Laundry take his game to a Pro Bowl level.
skinsfan69 05-07-2009, 11:24 PM As much as I wish Blache was more creative with the overall scheme on defense, at the end of the day we still had the 4th best.
I just wish we used more disguise to get pressure.
We wouldn't have to bring extra guys all the time if we could create a half second of confusion.
I wish we did some overloads blitzing, some fire-zone and zone-dogs.
But, you don't fire a DC because you don't like his style.
If the pass rush doesn't improve dramatically i think that we need to take a hard look at letting Coach Palermo go kick rocks.
I would love for Coach Gray to take over as DC, but 2 years ago Synder basically begged Coach Blache not to retire to coach the defense how can he then turn around and fire him?
Blache would have to retire for Gray to take over, hopefully Gray will still be around.
Well said.
Ruhskins 05-07-2009, 11:36 PM So let me get this straight. Our offense scores 16 points a game and is one of the worst in the league but we are going to fire the guy who led us to the 4th best defense in the league the season after we tragically lose our best defensive player.
Sounds like a great idea... I think the Cutler trade makes more sense than this.
Well said.
Lotus 05-07-2009, 11:38 PM I believe that if we do not get a constant pass rush with Haynesworth in the middle and Orakpo I believe that Blache will be fired and that Aggressive Jerry Gray would take over. Jim Zorn has already stated that we need a big pass rush this season, which is probably the main reason we paid Haynesworth all that money. I'm tired of stopping the run first then pass rush. We need to stop the run on the way to the quarterback. I believe that Blache is holding the d-line back from making a lot of plays. It was like our defense was a bend but don't break defense which helped us to 4th overall defense which I believe is good but not a dominating one. I believe that this defense could be up there with the Pittsburghs, Baltimores and Titans. You win with Championship Defense. If the offense improves and we still do not get to the quarterback then we will be looking at 8-8 again folks. What do you guys think about Blache's scheme? Should he be fired if no improvements in the sack department?
I would love to have a sack-happy defense, too. But I disagree that if the offense improves but we don't get more sacks that we will end up 8-8. And Haynesworth and Orakpo may help to solve the sack problem without any change of scheme.
In terms of defense there are only three teams above us. To me, the #4 defense is already a championship defense. I can't imagine why we would want to fire the leader of such a defense.
Ruhskins 05-07-2009, 11:44 PM I would love to have a sack-happy defense, too. But I disagree that if the offense improves but we don't get more sacks that we will end up 8-8. And Haynesworth and Orakpo may help to solve the sack problem without any change of scheme.
In terms of defense there are only three teams above us. To me, the #4 defense is already a championship defense. I can't imagine why we would want to fire the leader of such a defense.
I could be wrong, but I don't think there are that many balanced teams out there (offense/defense). As much as I hate them, I would say the Pats are one of them, I can't think of another one. Right now we have to make sure that our offense can compliment our strong defense. As much as I would want a Colts-styled offense, with the defense that we have, I would be happy with an offense that can put up a few more points, kill the clock at the end, and does not make many costly mistakes.
GTripp0012 05-07-2009, 11:53 PM So let me get this straight. Our offense scores 16 points a game and is one of the worst in the league but we are going to fire the guy who led us to the 4th best defense in the league the season after we tragically lose our best defensive player.Pittsburgh
Baltimore
Philadelphia
Tennessee
Minnesota
All undeniably better defenses than we were last year. That's five.
Then there's the Tampa's, Chicago's, Dallas', and New York Giants' who we were ranked above, but I feel had a stronger defensive effort from start of year to finish than we did.
And by the end of the year, the Indy's and Cincinnati's of the world were stingier in point giving than we were.
Still, there's something to be said for even an average defensive effort in the wake of the loss of your best young talent. Credit goes where it's due. But lets not blow it out of proportion, we made a ton of defensive mistakes last year. I think we'll be noticeably and obviously better this year.
mcludka 05-08-2009, 01:07 AM Are you serious??? Imagine last year's D with an O that could score every once in awhile. We were in every game! Problem was, we ALWAYS relied on the D to win or save a win. This is the NFL- teams score! Our D should be able to produce more big plays this year. Why do we need this?? To help the O!!! Maybe a bit more focus on scoring and protecting the QB and GB could feel secure in fan's eyes...Sheesh!!
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