Zorn: 'We're Further Ahead' This Year

Mike Holmgren has an opinion unbecoming of a future Redskins consultant.

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Words from the wise.

Don't play these games with me son, I won't stand for it.

He isn't your son...no one here is and your dismissive attitude isn't cute or well liked by many. I tend to agree with you about the comments but the way you talk AT people is old.

He isn't your son...no one here is and your dismissive attitude isn't cute or well liked by many. I tend to agree with you about the comments but the way you talk AT people is old.

Yes sir. Understood.

JC being sharp in camp doesnt exactly give me a warm in fuzzy about his regular season performance.

So last year's performance is still relevant.. or should we just wait for the season? You seem to want to ship him out now.

Don't play these games with me son, I won't stand for it.

Purely statistically, I am likely older than you, so I could not be your "son."

From the standpoint of logic, ad hominem arguments (where you attack the person, not the argument) are always fallacious. They are always logically bankrupt. Ad hominem arguments also make you look foolish. So please, for the benefit of us both in the future, discuss my views rather than attacking my person.

So, back to the point: How is Zorn's calling the young WR's "sad" in your words "hyping shit?" Or is Zorn more honest than you give him credit for?

This isn't really a surprise. They should be further along.

Purely statistically, I am likely older than you, so I could not be your "son."

From the standpoint of logic, ad hominem arguments (where you attack the person, not the argument) are always fallacious. They are always logically bankrupt. Ad hominem arguments also make you look foolish. So please, for the benefit of us both in the future, discuss my views rather than attacking my person.

So, back to the point: How is Zorn's calling the young WR's "sad" in your words "hyping shit?" Or is Zorn more honest than you give him credit for?


You should explore reading article (http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/zorn-were-further-ahead-this-y.html#more) linked to in the first post of the thread. Also, I'm entirely convinced you understand what ad hominem argument is.

For better or worse, Zorn says whatever he thinks whenever he thinks it. This was written about extensively last year by writers like Peter King and Sally Jenkins. It was a source of friction between the coach and his star running back. It is and has been extremely well publicized.

If anyone doubts that Zorn would say that Cambpell or the WR's or whoever was sucking if they were in fact sucking, well, I would have to refer them to last season.

You should explore reading article (http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/zorn-were-further-ahead-this-y.html#more) linked to in the first post of the thread. Also, I'm entirely convinced you understand what ad hominem argument is.

I read the article (the second link is better) or I could not have asked the question. Here is what Zorn said about the young wide receivers:
"I think that's kind of the negative: we have the 'potential'. We've got some young guys, but they haven't really played yet. And that's what we're hoping, is that the 'potential' becomes a reality to what we think they're gonna be. And I'll tell you this: they have the attitude of want-to, and that's part of the battle, and they're also working hard to get it all down, listening to their coach, Stan Hixon, so that they can be in the right place at the right speed with the right cut and then finish it with the catch, and hopefully we'll get some yards after catch as well. So all those things'll be put together, but right now you're right, man: it's just potential. And that's kinda the sad thing about it."

So please answer my question: how is that "hyping shit"?