Skins look to improve WR-Sign Roydell Williams (could add Hackett)

That doesn't quite jive with what we've got here, maybe one of our cap folks can comment further.

I think the difference is that on the sheet there is a 6.5 signing bonus effective in '10. The cap sheet is correct assuming the team executes the bonus. RI classified it as an option bonus so that the team has until 8/31/10 to decide if they want to execute it. If they do, it becomes a signing bonus and the contract extends through '15. If they cut him after '09 they take 4.4MM in dead cap for '10. Or they can keep him for '10 at a salary of 1.95MM and he becomes a FA. My hope would be that Kelly and Thomas blow it up and they can just drop ARE outright but it might not be the worst thing to give ARE a contract year at 1.95MM since that is typically when players perform their best. Also, I think it is wishful thinking to count on Kelly beating out ARE.

I disagree. While the Microfracture surgical procedure is minimally invasive, it is not a good sign if an athlete needs it.
I work for the Houston Rockets and there is serious concern that T-Mac will not make it back. Even if he makes it back he will not be the player he was before the surgery.
Microfracture surgery at the moment is controversial because the success rate is just about 75% in athletes. For every Jason Kidd (success) there is a Chris Webber (failed) that had to retire.
One of the problem with this procedure is it promotes the regeneration of fibrocartilage, not Hyaline cartilage. Fibrocartilage is not as good mechanically as the original hyaline cartilage which is much denser and is able to withstand the demands of everyday activities. Therefore there is a high incidence symptom (pain) returning to the joint with in a year or two.
Cartilage issues in joints for an athlete is a degenerative conditions that only gets worse, not better over time.
If this kid is having this much trouble in his knee and he has barely played, it most likely get worse when he plays more.

All I meant was this surgery is not the kiss of death some are making it out to be.

He's young, they didn't have to do the whole knee, so hopefully his chances of a full recovery are pretty high. We'll see.

Just check the cap sheets. Takes 2 seconds to basically tell if getting rid of a guy is realistic or not.

The capsheets here are misleading. The cap hit is only 10M to cut ARE next year if the skins chose to give him an option bonus prior to the 2010 season. If they dont, he can be cut and the cap hit will only be about 4M. Andre Carter has the same clause in his contract. Both were re-worked this offseason.

the capsheets for both players here only reflect the contracts if the skins want them on the team next year. The skins may pick up carters bonus, but theres no way in hell they do the same for ARE. Unless he somehow becomes a great #2 receiver this year, he's definitely being cut after the season.

EDIT - I see this has already been discussed and explained. My bad.

ummmm i am confused i read that next year is a uncapped year?

ummmm i am confused i read that next year is a uncapped year?

That's as of right now, assuming an argeement is not reached.

That's as of right now, assuming an argeement is not reached.

If an agreement is reached we are screwed...

If an agreement is reached we are screwed...

Nah, we will find a way out of it...we always do. Everyone, every year always says we are in cap trouble, yet we always wiggle out of it and thrive somehow.

Something tells me the FO has a plan for an uncapped and capped year.

I guess Anthony Mix isnt under consideration to help us out:

ProFootballTalk.com - Bucs Receiver Indicted (http://www.profootballtalk.com/2009/05/06/bucs-receiver-indicted/)

Well, it’s once again time to re-set the arrest meter to zero.
Per our friends at Pewter Report, Tampa receiver Anthony Mix has been indicted for having sex with a minor.
Mix allegedly had a relationship with a 15-year-old girl.
He is charged only with contributing to the delinquency of a minor, which is a misdemeanor. He avoided indictment on felony charges of second-degree rape and sodomy.
Mix faces up to a year in prison and a $500 fine.
“One thing led to another and they decided to meet up,” Lester Banfield of the Bay Minette police told FOX 10 in Mobile/Pensacola. “We believe he was aware of the age of the girl. She snuck out of her house, they met, they had sex in the vehicle while it was parked on the street.”
Mix signed with the Bucs earlier this year, after spending 2008 out of football. He previously played for the Giants and the Redskins.
The Buccaneers had no comment.

Something tells me the FO has a plan for an uncapped and capped year.

I think they are hoping for an uncapped year so they can get rid of the dead weight (Jansen, Smoot, etcl) on the roster and not worry about the cap hits.