Skins look to improve WR-Sign Roydell Williams (could add Hackett)

To my recollection he wasn't hurt last year until the 2nd week of training camp. I don't remember him being hurt in any of the minicamps or OTAs. I know he was out of NFL shape and failed the training run, as did Thomas, but I don't recall any injury.

Regardless, I guess it's just a different way of looking at things. I'd rather give him the benefit of the doubt in May based on everything coming from the player, coaches and team rather than speculate negatively that he is going to remain injured despite the evidence to the contrary.

If my recollection serves me well I thought Kelly was not in anyones top choice due to him having injured a knee or both. He came to Preseason hoping he would not need knee surgery and it was after the second preseason game that team officials suggested he have the surgery. I think he would have rather not done it. Then he came back in like week 9 and played after our break. Although he was not utilized much he was basically a drone on the field.

All was supposedly going fine until all of a sudden he decided to have another surgery in Feb. Perhaps team officials suggested it again or he thought he needed it, but I think it was a shock to the media and fans who thought he was healthy. Yes it was not a seriouse as mentioned and I hope he comes back with a passion and lights it up so we can squelch some of the drama and let some of this camp fodder go, but no one knows until he hits camp as to how his knees will hold up. So the team is taking out some insurance. Good.

I just hope the team puts the best on the field and does not let people go who would help the team simply to save face and force Kelly to step up when he can't. I now every year we say this is the SB yr and some of us are delerious, but honestly I could see us going somewhere this yr. Our defensive line is 10 times better or should be, hopefully we have cohesiveness. Our secondary is a lot better with out Springs taking a roster spot and money to sit on the bench. We should have a much better pass rush. JC will have better knowledge of the offense and hopefully Zorn plays to JC's strengths. We have a second TE with a lot of talent who hopefully will step up and be part of our 2 TE sets. A better O-line, and a bigger one again hopefully if all works out well. A better back field and a ton of talent at WR. ;)

If you listened to the Coaches and player you would have thought that no surgery was necessary after a wasted season since that was what Zorn and Kelly said in December. Then it turns out that he needs major surgery in February (albeit, they said it wasn't as bad as they thought when they were in there). I am curious how you say there is no evidence to the contrary? I would argue there is no evidence that he can be counted on to contribute.

Don't get me wrong, I want to see this guy healthy and on the field. He was one of the most productive receivers in college football but at this point, I really have no expectations for him.

Microfracture is not considered major surgery. It's done on an out-patient basis and takes as little as 30 minutes to do.

I think people are making a much bigger deal about this surgery than it really is.

Microfracture is not considered major surgery. It's done on an out-patient basis and takes as little as 30 minutes to do.

I think people are making a much bigger deal about this surgery than it really is.

Matt, I would agree if this was an isolated incident but I have to consider this guy's injury body of work.

Anyway, I have moved on from Kelly. I want to know how the coaches are going to use Thomas and Fred Davis and the guys brought in who will actually be on the field for us.

Microfracture is not considered major surgery. It's done on an out-patient basis and takes as little as 30 minutes to do.

I think people are making a much bigger deal about this surgery than it really is.

It's not "major" in that it requires hospital stay but it can be a real challenge to recover from. Slow going usually. Just a few years ago it was the last stop option before retirement because it was such a major thing to recover from. It sounds like they've rounded it out but let's not kid ourselves. Microfracture surgery is a big deal. In May? Not as much certainly though.

This is cool. I have Roydell Williams as the team's #3 WR on my Madden fantasy franchise league, with JC throwing to him. (Boldin is the #1 and Malcolm Kelly is a beast at #2, of course Portis and Cooley are on the team too) :D


No seriously, Roydell Williams could be a very good pickup for depth if he can stay healthy and focused. His numbers were a bit deflated because he had Vince Young as his QB last time he played. He did have 719 yards on a team with almost no passing game.

I just hope we do not sign so many productive WRs that it stunts Kelly and Thomas' development and keeps them off the field more than they should be.

Maybe we're planning on moving Randel El? We've found a replacement punt returner. I'd hate to see him go, he's actually a very good WR for us in clutch situations and 3rd down and adds a passing WR to our arsenal.

Once again, ARE isn't going anywhere. Cutting/trading him would create a cap hit of over $13M.

Microfracture is not considered major surgery. It's done on an out-patient basis and takes as little as 30 minutes to do.

I think people are making a much bigger deal about this surgery than it really is.

I think the people that are ready to drop him off the roster due to fear are a bit too quick to pull that trigger. However, most here are concerned about a surgery that CAN AND HAS ended a career. It doesn't sound like people are making too big a deal out of this as much as it is Kelly supporters making too little a deal about it. Any time you have a potentially career ending surgery, it IS a big deal.
I personally take the approach of giving the kid a chance. He has age on his side, so it doesn't hurt to wait 1 more year and see how it responds. If this is a problem 1 more time and he misses a large chunk of games, it's time to cut him loose and try again with someone else.

About cutting ARE (from a previous post), from a purely straight approach, he is not earning his money nor is he playing to the level we expected. Therefore he should be cut. However, I do not know his cap implications, and we may be stuck with him a little longer. How much more time does ARE need to show he deserved his big paycheck?

Ugh.

This is cool. I have Roydell Williams as the team's #3 WR on my Madden fantasy franchise league, with JC throwing to him. (Boldin is the #1 and Malcolm Kelly is a beast at #2, of course Portis and Cooley are on the team too) :D


No seriously, Roydell Williams could be a very good pickup for depth if he can stay healthy and focused. His numbers were a bit deflated because he had Vince Young as his QB last time he played. He did have 719 yards on a team with almost no passing game.

I just hope we do not sign so many productive WRs that it stunts Kelly and Thomas' development and keeps them off the field more than they should be.

Maybe we're planning on moving Randel El? We've found a replacement punt returner. I'd hate to see him go, he's actually a very good WR for us in clutch situations and 3rd down and adds a passing WR to our arsenal.

The only thing holding them back is them. We don't have time to "groom" them. They are big boys. Put up or shut up.

Once again, ARE isn't going anywhere. Cutting/trading him would create a cap hit of over $13M.

This year no. Next year, definitely.