rbanerjee23
04-26-2009, 09:12 PM
Is anyone else concerned that Orakpo could end up being the next Vernon Gholston. Both of them had killer final campaigns and are weight room warriors to the max. However, Gholston managed only 13 tackles of which only 5 were solo.
I want to believe that Orakpo will be different but can any one give me a tangible reason why?
Ijaeger
04-26-2009, 09:18 PM
seriously? dude is a beast. he will be playing beside haynesworth, griff, and opposite carter-enough said. barring injury, i would imagine we will have more sack lunches than a middle school field trip...yum yum yum yum
SirClintonPortis
04-26-2009, 09:20 PM
Gholston plays in a 3-4. Didn't follow the Jets though, but he probably couldn't handle covering on a zone blitz.
NicknacK89
04-26-2009, 09:21 PM
i think the addition of haynesworth is infinitely helpful in developing orakpo
GMScud
04-26-2009, 09:25 PM
Orakpo turned in multiple dominant seasons at Texas. He plays in a different system. Also, the knock on Gholston before he was drafted was that he seemed to disappear from games at times. He'd have a few good plays, then vanish. Funny, since his first season in the NFL earned him the nickname "Ghost." As in you can't see him, since he couldn't get on the field. He's headed towards the colossal bust category if Rex Ryan can't squeeze something out of him
In summary, Orakpo won't come close to equaling Gholston. Or should I say, Gholston won't come close to equaling Orakpo.
Pocket$ $traight
04-26-2009, 09:25 PM
I am more concerned that the weakness of the team is offensive line and the first 4 picks off the board are defensive guys. Then with the last two picks they get guys who belong on the practice squad.
Great job Dan. I am sure that 410 Mike Williams will fix everything.
The Goat
04-26-2009, 09:25 PM
Ok...i guess you painted the worst case scenario. For the likely scenario I'll plagiarize Mr. GTripp and say Orakpo is probably just Carter reloaded, which isn't a huge addition for us on defense and ultimately doesn't make a great impact for some time cuz Carter probably isn't going anywhere. The best case scenario is Orakpo bulks up a bit and becomes a badass run-stopper so he can be our stud LDE who also gets to the QB.
Probability among the scenarios: 10%, 65% and 25% respectively IMO.
...it's fun to make predictions when they don't count for anything :)
Lotus
04-26-2009, 09:30 PM
Is anyone else concerned that Orakpo could end up being the next Vernon Gholston. Both of them had killer final campaigns and are weight room warriors to the max. However, Gholston managed only 13 tackles of which only 5 were solo.
I want to believe that Orakpo will be different but can any one give me a tangible reason why?
Can you give me a reason why he would be a Gholston? Saying that he had a "killer final campaign" is not a sufficient reason - many players do. Saying that he is a workout warrior also is not a sufficient reason, as many players are.
Until Orakpo plays badly, I have no reason to suspect that he will be a Gholston.
Pocket$ $traight
04-26-2009, 09:32 PM
I think the only knock on Orakpo is durability. When healthy he was recognized as the premier pass rusher in the draft.
GMScud
04-26-2009, 09:35 PM
Can you give me a reason why he would be a Gholston? Saying that he had a "killer final campaign" is not a sufficient reason - many players do. Saying that he is a workout warrior also is not a sufficient reason, as many players are.
Until Orakpo plays badly, I have no reason to suspect that he will be a Gholston.
Seriously. It's a GREAT thing to be a workout warrior if you're also super productive on the field. Do you guys realize how friggin insane it is to bench 515lbs?? Plus he power cleans nearly 400 which is almost funny it's so crazy. That kind of strength to go with his first step means if he's not going around tackles, he can push them out of the way.
I'm really fired up about this kid.