Will Brian Orakpo = the next Vernon Gholston

The biggest difference between Orakpo and Gholsten is the company he is surrounded by on the field during game time. The 49ers are mediocre at best. With Haynesworth, Griffin, Carter, P.Daniels/R. Wynn for D line, then L. Fletcher, Orakpo, and R. McIntosh as LB crew, Greg Blache could easily start bringing the PAIN with the blitz and feel comfortable doing so. With Orakpo at LB, that would more often that not put a RB trying to block him on a rush. Do the math! Also Orakpo could be spelled at LB and slide in to DE on passing plays if desired. The options are endless. I'm anxious top see how Blache plays his hand. Now the big question is can the Offense put points on the board when the Defense shuts a team down?

The biggest difference between Orakpo and Gholsten is the company he is surrounded by on the field during game time. The 49ers are mediocre at best. With Haynesworth, Griffin, Carter, P.Daniels/R. Wynn for D line, then L. Fletcher, Orakpo, and R. McIntosh as LB crew, Greg Blache could easily start bringing the PAIN with the blitz and feel comfortable doing so. With Orakpo at LB, that would more often that not put a RB trying to block him on a rush. Do the math! Also Orakpo could be spelled at LB and slide in to DE on passing plays if desired. The options are endless. I'm anxious top see how Blache plays his hand. Now the big question is can the Offense put points on the board when the Defense shuts a team down?

How do the 49ers fit into this discussion??

Now the big question is can the Offense put points on the board when the Defense shuts a team down?

I'm hoping we improve by an average of 3 points per game offensively while doing the same defensively. I stand by "if you can score 21 per game and hold a majority of your opponents to < 21 then you have a strong contender.

Is this to mean Orakpo will probably not do very well as a rookie? Then, yes, he will probably be the next Vernon Gholston, who in turn still has a year (at least) to be the next Mario Williams. Rookies that make an immediate impact are pretty rare, especially those that aren't running backs. Should Gholston have made more than 13 tackles in his rookie season? Definitely, but he hasn't been cut by the Jets...yet.

Gholston did so poorly because of the system that he played in. And with Orakpo playing next to Haynesworth, he is bound to have a nice rookie campaign. Haynesworth makes everyone around him good. Everyone will be trying to double team him, leaving Orakpo and Carter on islands. Don't worry about Orakpo, he's a beast!

I'm hoping we improve by an average of 3 points per game offensively while doing the same defensively. I stand by "if you can score 21 per game and hold a majority of your opponents to < 21 then you have a strong contender.

Maybe our improved defense will give the offense shorter fields, resulting in those 3 points you desire.

There is no way BO is going to be the next Gholston. BO is way more talented and experienced than Gholston was, and BO is more motivated to succeed.

Is anyone else concerned that Orakpo could end up being the next Vernon Gholston. Both of them had killer final campaigns and are weight room warriors to the max. However, Gholston managed only 13 tackles of which only 5 were solo.

I want to believe that Orakpo will be different but can any one give me a tangible reason why?

No offense dude, but this is what upsets me about a.) negativity among fans and b.) people posting just for the hell of it. With many Orakpo threads, you could have easily asked this question in one of these discussions or just ask in general what are people thought about Orakpo. Instead, you go out of your way to make this thread, asking a negative question that is pure speculation.

No offense dude, but this is what upsets me about a.) negativity among fans and b.) people posting just for the hell of it. With many Orakpo threads, you could have easily asked this question in one of these discussions or just ask in general what are people thought about Orakpo. Instead, you go out of your way to make this thread, asking a negative question that is pure speculation.

I agree, but I don't think we should be playing thread police. Draft day is always nuts. SmootSmack and Matty have been around all day. They can put a lid on anything they need to.

The thread title may be a bit off, but speculating on the chances of Orakpo being a bust isn't out of bounds. IMO anyway.

What does one have to do with the other?