GusFrerotte
04-26-2009, 11:16 PM
Samuels was the 3rd pick in his draft, we weren't getting another samuels in the 5-7th round. Best we could get is a Dockery, and I guess the FO is assuming Rinehart might develop this year. To really upgrade the line at this point (not just make it younger for the sake of youth) we need to find a G/T upgrade from other teams cuts.
I rather look for undrafted rookies first. Youth is only part of the equation. Money is the big factor. Sign a vet FA and it is going to cost you money, big money if he is any good. Sign a bunch of undrafted rooks and work them out. If you can get 2-3 of them to be worth keeping good for you. You can keep them around for a long time and they will only get better. Plugging in older vets like we have hasn't been the best option. Our guys are getting dinged up way too often.
Lotus
04-26-2009, 11:20 PM
I rather look for undrafted rookies first. Youth is only part of the equation. Money is the big factor. Sign a vet FA and it is going to cost you money, big money if he is any good. Sign a bunch of undrafted rooks and work them out. If you can get 2-3 of them to be worth keeping good for you. You can keep them around for a long time and they will only get better. Plugging in older vets like we have hasn't been the best option. Our guys are getting dinged up way too often.
True, but those rookies have to have the right level of talent. A vet should have some talent.
cobracai1
04-26-2009, 11:23 PM
I give this draft a B+. Love the Orakpo and Barnes pick. I've said it before but I honestly believe Barnes was a steal!! To be honest not too familiar with the two LBs so im just hoping for the best. The FB looks to have come from a West Coast Offense so thats a plus. And the WR might have some potenital a la Anthony Mix.
Look I know everyone is pissed (including myself) that we ended up with basically the same O-line but I believe that some of this was Buges's doing. He loves the vets and probably felt that none of the talent available outside of the first was any better than what we have on the team. I would like to think that if Buges REALLY pushed for Duke or Meredith in the 5th it would have happened but it didn't. I've posted somewhere else about why I don't care much for Duke but Meredith seemed like a good pick at the time. I think Buges doesn't see him as an upgrade to either Jansen or Heyer to be honest with you guys and thats fine with me. I don't think we should get O line just to say we did (I stole this from Gtripp). Lets see how things unfold.
SmootSmack
04-26-2009, 11:30 PM
I'll count the UDFAs as part of the draft, and so I'll bump them up to a B- with the Williams signing.
Lotus
04-26-2009, 11:30 PM
I give this draft a B+. Love the Orakpo and Barnes pick. I've said it before but I honestly believe Barnes was a steal!! To be honest not too familiar with the two LBs so im just hoping for the best. The FB looks to have come from a West Coast Offense so thats a plus. And the WR might have some potenital a la Anthony Mix.
Look I know everyone is pissed (including myself) that we ended up with basically the same O-line but I believe that some of this was Buges's doing. He loves the vets and probably felt that none of the talent available outside of the first was any better than what we have on the team. I would like to think that if Buges REALLY pushed for Duke or Meredith in the 5th it would have happened but it didn't. I've posted somewhere else about why I don't care much for Duke but Meredith seemed like a good pick at the time. I think Buges doesn't see him as an upgrade to either Jansen or Heyer to be honest with you guys and thats fine with me. I don't think we should get O line just to say we did (I stole this from Gtripp). Lets see how things unfold.
For the better part of of the draft no one thought Meredith was a good pick. Then, if he just fallen a few more picks, we may have taken him. He could have been a just-miss.
tryfuhl
04-26-2009, 11:49 PM
I rather look for undrafted rookies first. Youth is only part of the equation. Money is the big factor. Sign a vet FA and it is going to cost you money, big money if he is any good. Sign a bunch of undrafted rooks and work them out. If you can get 2-3 of them to be worth keeping good for you. You can keep them around for a long time and they will only get better. Plugging in older vets like we have hasn't been the best option. Our guys are getting dinged up way too often.
If a guy gets cut he's not going to be able to demand big money, usually. There are always exceptions but yeah. So signing a cut guy isn't too bad if it buys you some time and he works out better than anybody else that you brought in. After draft trades I'm a bit weary of just because I like having our picks next year.
So our team needs to stay healthy through camp/preseason so we don't have to give up picks to acquire guys.
tryfuhl
04-26-2009, 11:50 PM
I'll count the UDFAs as part of the draft, and so I'll bump them up to a B- with the Williams signing.
Well Williams was drafted in 2002, but as far as FA pickups, not a bad prospect, but I'm not sure how he raises the grade any.
Nflnick11
04-26-2009, 11:59 PM
C-
The second day picks made no sense..kevin barnes???he's had multiple injuries and we could have gotten him in the fifth
Cody Glenn ...who the hell is he, he'll be cut...and we could of had Meredith or duke robinson who for I don't know what reason fell way out of the second round and to the 5or6th round he could of played guard or tackle for us somewhere down the road
Henson looks ok judging by his highlights
I think we meant to take edwin Williams out of Maryland than eddie willaims out of Idaho who again we don't need and will be cut
Mitchell the wr we could have gottenbetter wrs but whatever I guess zorn loves this guy or something
GMScud
04-27-2009, 12:00 AM
Well Williams was drafted in 2002, but as far as FA pickups, not a bad prospect, but I'm not sure how he raises the grade any.
I think he's talking about Edwin Williams, the C from Maryland we just signed. UDFA=Undrafted....
T.O.Killa
04-27-2009, 12:02 AM
Here is my draft. Three players I would have picked never got drafted.
1. Brian Orakpo DE 1st
2. Duke Robinson G,C 3rd
3. Gerald Cadigan RT, G 5th
4. Brad Jones OLB 6th
5. Anthony Appleby OLB 7th
6. Joe Bell RT 7th