BleedBurgundy
04-28-2009, 08:55 PM
I have to give it an "E" because honestly, who the **** has ever seen a grade of E before?
Grade the Redskins Draft!BleedBurgundy 04-28-2009, 08:55 PM I have to give it an "E" because honestly, who the **** has ever seen a grade of E before? DIRTEE 04-28-2009, 09:07 PM I have to give it an "E" because honestly, who the **** has ever seen a grade of E before? that's funny. backrow 04-29-2009, 08:29 AM This below "Borrowed" from Akh over in HailRedskins.com. Akh’s Thoughts: Draft Review Posted by: Akhhorus on Monday, April 27th, 2009 Pick #13: Brian Orakpo DE Texas Pros: -Good speed -Great backside pursuit skills -Good physical tools -Shows a recognition of building the Dline from the team(I hope). -Could be great in the right system Cons: -Undersized -Questions about his motivation -Questionable weight gain -Terrible fit for Blache’s system -Usual question marks about Texas defenders/Dlinemen. -Technique questions Overall Comment: He has undeniable potential, but there’s just far too many question marks about him to get excited about the pick. If Blache is replaced and a more aggressive system comes in(3-4 c3?), Orakpo could find a role as a dedicated rush Lb. Grade: With the status Quo, D+. In the right system C+. Next ten picks(and who I’d rather have had in bold): 14-New Orleans Malcolm Jenkins CB/FS 15-Houston Brian Cushing OLB 16-San Diego Larry English DE 17-Tampa Bay (from New York Jets through Cleveland) Josh Freeman QB 18-Denver (from Chicago) Robert Ayers DE 19-Philadelphia (from Tampa Bay through Cleveland) Jeremy Maclin WR 20-Detroit (from Dallas) Brandon Pettigrew TE 21-Cleveland (from Philadelphia) Alex Mack OC 22-Minnesota Percy Harvin WR 23-Baltimore Michael Oher OT Who he’ll remind you of: Best Case: Alex Brown with more drive Worst Case: Marcus Washington with less ability/Tim Crowder Pick #80 Kevin Barnes CB UMD Pros: -Big with good speed. -Big hitter -Good leaping ability -Fluid hips Cons: -Struggles with run support -Struggles in man2man, especially against big WRs. -Can be fooled with misdirection -terrible in bump and run -Gives too big cushions Overall Comment: He needs work, but there’s talent there. He needs to show that he’s a ballhawk to earn playing time. That’s his strength. My complaint with this pick is that we passed on a lot of Oline talent for him. Grade: C Next ten picks(and who I’d rather have had in bold): 81-Tampa Bay Roy Miller DT 82-Detroit (from Dallas) Derrick Williams WR 83-New England (from New York Jets through Green Bay) Brandon Tate WR 84-Pittsburgh (from Chicago through Denver) Mike Wallace WR 85-NY Giants (from Philadelphia) Ramses Barden WR 86-Minnesota Asher Allen CB 87-Miami Patrick Turner WR 88-Baltimore Lardarius Webb CB 89-Tennessee (from New England) Jared Cook TE 90-Atlanta Chris Owens CB Who he’ll remind you of: Best Case: Ken Lucas with more speed Worst Case: Low rent Ron Bartell Pick #158 Cody Glenn LB Nebraska Pros: -Built stoutly -Good tackling ability -Hard worker Cons: -Extremely raw: has only played 9 games at LB -Character concerns -Fooled easily with misdirection combined with bad change of direction ability -Durability concerns -Not that fast or quick Overall Comment: a waste of a pick frankly. We could use a young Lb, but the list of other prospects at that position was long. And we passed on a ton of OLine talent for him. He’d better be a diamond in the rough, or he’s the next Manny White. I have a feeling that he’ll just be a special teamer. Also undefendable was passing on guys like Jasper Brinkley in a trade down for him. Grade: F Next ten picks(and who I’d rather have had in bold): 159-Philadelphia (from New England) Fenuki Tupou OT 160-St. Louis (from Atlanta) Brooks Foster WR 161-Miami Johnathan Nalbone TE 162-Green Bay (from Baltimore through New England) Jamon Meredith OT 163-Carolina Duke Robinson OG 164-New Orleans (from New York Giants through Philadelphia) Thomas Morstead P 165-Miami (from Indianapolis) Chris Clemons S 166-Dallas (From Tennessee) Michael Hamlin S 167-Arizona Herman Johnson OG 168-Pittsburgh Joe Burnett CB Who he’ll remind you of: Best Case: HB Blades with less polish and more athleticism Worst Case: Robert McCune with less muscle Pick #186 Robert Henson LB TCU Pros: -Good size -Quick -Sure tackler Cons: -Low talent overall -Bites on misdirection badly -Terrible in pass coverage -Small Overall Comment: Grade: F Next ten picks(and who I’d rather have had in bold): 187-Green Bay (from New Orleans) Brandon Underwood CB 188-Houston Brice McCain CB 189-San Diego Kevin Ellison S/LB 190-Chicago Al Afalava S 191-Cleveland (from Tampa Bay)Coye Francies CB 192-Detroit (from Dallas) Aaron Brown RB 193-NY Jets Matthew Slauson OG 194-Philadelphia Brandon Gibson WR 195-Cleveland (from Minnesota through Philadelphia) James Davis RB 196-St. Louis (from Atlanta) Keith Null QB Who he’ll remind you of: Best Case: A low rent DeMorrio Williams Worst Case: Jared Newberry Pick #221 Eddie Williams Fb/HBack Idaho Pros: -Good outside blocker -Good hands -Good pass catching instincts Cons: -Injury issues -Raw -Struggles blocking front 7 defenders -Doesn’t have great speed/quickness Overall Comment: Might be a long term practice squadder/camp fodder who never makes it to the field in a real game, but he’ll get a look or two. Grade: D Next ten picks(and who I’d rather have had in bold): 222-Indianapolis (from New Orleans from Philadelphia) Patrick McAfee PK 223-Houston Troy Nolan S 224-San Diego Demetrius Byrd WR 225-Denver Blake Schlueter OC 226-Pittsburgh (from Tampa Bay) A.Q. Shipley OC 227-Dallas Mike Mickens CB 228-Detroit (from New York Jets) Lydon Murtha OT 229-Dallas (from Chicago through Tampa Bay) Manuel Johnson WR 230-Philadelphia Moise Fokou OLB 231-Minnesota Jamarca Sanford S Who he’ll remind you of: Best Case: Garrett Mills Worst Case: A Fb who can’t block. Pick #243 Marko Mitchell WR Nevada Pros: -Good hands -Good size -Good instincts -Good blocker -Route running ability Cons: -Slow and not very quick -Isn’t that tough. -Played in a small school/gimmick offense Overall Comment: Boom/bust, but worth a flyer. If they can work on his footwork, this could be a steal of a pick. Still extremely risky though. Grade: B Next ten picks(and who I’d rather have had in bold): 244-San Francisco (compensatory selection) Ricky Jean-Francois DT 245-Seattle (compensatory selection) Courtney Greene S 246-Chicago (compensatory selection) Lance Louis OG 247-Seattle (compensatory selection) Nick Reed DE 248-Seattle (compensatory selection) Cameron Morrah TE 249-Cincinnati (compensatory selection) Clinton McDonald DT 250-Jacksonville (compensatory selection)-Rashad Jennings RB 251-Chicago (compensatory selection)Derek Kinder WR 252-Cincinnati (compensatory selection) Freddie Brown WR 253-Jacksonville (compensatory selection) Tiquan Underwood WR Who he’ll remind you of: Best Case: Marques Colston Worst Case: JR Russell Overall comment/grade: A waste of a draft. If Orakpo doesn’t pan out, then we really screwed this one up. If he does, then this is probably a clone of the 2007 Landry draft(which wasn’t that good in retrospect). The 2nd day was so bad that the UDFA signees seem to be better acquisitions than any of those picks. Also, with the Broncos offering Jarvis Moss around for a 7th, I would have used that Eddie Williams pick for Moss to hedge our bets with Orakpo. Grade: D. UDFAs(comment and percentage of making the roster) Robbie Agnone, TE, Delaware: Good size, but not a good blocker. PS at best. 1% chance Scott Burley, OL, Maryland: Good size, but slow. Probably an OG in the NFL. PS for 09, might have a shot when the OL is purged of older players. 10% chance Chase Daniel, QB, Missouri: Small, not the greatest arm strength, but smart, a leader and can frustrate defenses by creating plays. Could unseat Brennan for the 3rd Qb spot, probably bound for the PS. 40% chance. Antonio Dixon, DT, Miami (FL): Big with good speed, raw and needs work. Needs to show something to even make the PS. 1% chance Doug Dutch, CB, Michigan: Raw with little experience playing CB. Doubtful for the PS with Barnes/Tyron. 1% chance. Devin Frischknecht, TE Washington State: Hback prospect. Not really a good pass catcher. Doubtful for the PS. 1% chance. Brigham Harwell, DT, UCLA: Benefits from the Walker connection. 1 gap penetrator, but very small. PS bound, probably, if he shows something he’ll replace Golston in a year. 15% chance. John Halman, WR, Concordia: Extremely raw, but interesting tools. He’ll have to leapfrog Mitchell even for the PS. 1% chance. Lendy Holmes, S, Oklahoma: Extremely aggressive player, undersized though. PS bound probably. 1% chance Robbie Palmer, LB, Arizona: Tackling machine, interesting size/speed, but struggles with mental aspects of the game. Doubtful for the PS. 1% chance. Derek Walker, DE, Illinois: A Darnett Dockett clone who has some upside. I think he’ll be fighting for a roster spot with Rob Jackson. 60% chance. Edwin Williams, C, Maryland: He’ll struggle with quicker DTs, but a tough Vet of an OC. With Rabach on his way out, I think he’ll make the roster. 70% chance Jaison Williams, WR, Oregon: How the mighty have fallen. All the tools, but poor hands and underachieves badly. PS bound, 15% chance. CRedskinsRule 04-29-2009, 08:47 AM I have to give it an "E" because honestly, who the **** has ever seen a grade of E before? It used to stand for Excellent! Monkeydad 04-30-2009, 03:04 PM Didn't think this was worthy of its own thread, so here are the rookies' jersey numbers: http://ai.redskins.com/WebData/Product/40453/Images/Large_7009A-98-Orakpo-Jersey-BU-Bk.jpg Kevin Barnes - 25 Cody Glenn - 57 Robert Henson - 58 Marko Mitchell - 84 Eddie Williams - 36 DIRTEE 04-30-2009, 09:07 PM I'm thinking we're going to make a trade for a bomb right tackle...I can feel it. Spending all summer practicing with Haynesworth/Griffin/Daniels/Carter and Orakpo, I don't have any doubts that our RT will be prepared for the season. Game day will be easy for our line. 4mrusmc 04-30-2009, 10:51 PM Sorry I can't turn in my paper just yet. The exam (or evaluation) will be turned in after the final game of the season. I also think that the FO will be looking for some cap casualty cast-offs to reload areas of need like LB and O-line. It's their MO for some strange reason, and it has not worked very well. Stuck in TX 05-01-2009, 12:38 PM Or at the very least let's wait until training camp before we roast them. Everyone is so freakin trigger happy about this draft. We should be asking these questions after camps and/or preseason. diehard 05-06-2009, 12:02 PM Kevin Barnes in the 3rd seems like a reach. Perhaps a better LB could've been had then but, I guess the team had Barnes rated higher than any LB at that spot... pauljunior 05-06-2009, 12:23 PM Kevin Barnes in the 3rd seems like a reach. Perhaps a better LB could've been had then but, I guess the team had Barnes rated higher than any LB at that spot... I don't agree. His injury was the only reason he wasn't picked up earlier. |
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