Skins Sign O-Lineman Mike Williams

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Ruhskins
04-27-2009, 02:17 AM
I'm a little tired so im not exactly sure what you are saying here, but the bottom line is, Samuels might be in for an injury plagued year, this guy (Williams) had potential (4th overall in 2002) and he probably wont pan out, where does that leave us? all of a sudden it went from a newly jacked up offensive line with a couple of average, to below average spots, to a piece of Swiss cheese. News floating around says that the Bengals are going to release Levi Jones, but there is already a line starting (Bills). And I was hoping we could save that money for signing stud LB Leroy Hill (UFA Seattle). Damn, all of a sudden it looks like this season just went down the shitter. Hopefully our defense can scrape up 16 near shut outs and can produce some TD's for us this year, our offense isn't going to do shit.

You are tired. Good point about Jones though, he'll go to a team that's going to make him a stater, but I do hope the team attempts to get him.

Superman13732
04-27-2009, 02:26 AM
You are tired. Good point about Jones though, he'll go to a team that's going to make him a stater, but I do hope the team attempts to get him.

Haha, i was hoping it wasn't obvious. But on a serious note, our collapse last year was mainly due to our OL not being able to hold up for the last half of the season. The line this year is looking just as shaky.

Help me break down our line real quick...

Samuels (RT) Dockery (LG) Rabach (C) Thomas (RG) Williams (RT)

If samuels gets hurt and Williams doesn't pan out, we are stuck with an average center a very old right gaurd and the newly bills released LG dockery. I'm going to bed, please someone have something positive to say about this line tomorrow morning so i can have a good Monday.

The Goat
04-27-2009, 02:30 AM
Somewhat vague link here about the FO's view of our OT situation:

Washington - Pro Football Weekly (http://www.profootballweekly.com/PFW/NFL/NFC/NFC+East/Washington/WWHI/2009/wwhi042409.htm)

Positive word that we'll be looking for legit talent in FA now. Yes I'd pay a wad for Levi Jones cuz if Samuels gets nicked up we just don't have anyone talented enough to fill in there. Jones would get paid to start at RT obviously...would he go for it? I don't know but we should try. I don't know maybe other talented vets will come available too.

...I think the FO may get serious about the o-line and that to me is the best indicator of the future :)

Dirtbag59
04-27-2009, 02:32 AM
This guy need to lift weights. He could lift himself all day and he should lose weight.

Cardio's always quicker short term. He should do both each day though, but to lose weight before the season starts, it needs to be through cardio. Hopefully in the meantime he'll build enough muscle to help him keep it off long term.

The Goat
04-27-2009, 02:34 AM
Haha, i was hoping it wasn't obvious. But on a serious note, our collapse last year was mainly due to our OL not being able to hold up for the last half of the season. The line this year is looking just as shaky.

Help me break down our line real quick...

Samuels (RT) Dockery (LG) Rabach (C) Thomas (RG) Williams (RT)

If samuels gets hurt and Williams doesn't pan out, we are stuck with an average center a very old right gaurd and the newly bills released LG dockery. I'm going to bed, please someone have something positive to say about this line tomorrow morning so i can have a good Monday.

Rome wasn't built in a day sire...sleep tight.

Ruhskins
04-27-2009, 02:43 AM
Somewhat vague link here about the FO's view of our OT situation:

Washington - Pro Football Weekly (http://www.profootballweekly.com/PFW/NFL/NFC/NFC+East/Washington/WWHI/2009/wwhi042409.htm)

Positive word that we'll be looking for legit talent in FA now. Yes I'd pay a wad for Levi Jones cuz if Samuels gets nicked up we just don't have anyone talented enough to fill in there. Jones would get paid to start at RT obviously...would he go for it? I don't know but we should try. I don't know maybe other talented vets will come available too.

...I think the FO may get serious about the o-line and that to me is the best indicator of the future :)

I would hope if the FO was serious about the offensive line that they would look to free agency instead of the 5th, 6th, or 7th round of the draft.

SC Skins Fan
04-27-2009, 09:07 AM
Except we're not giving up any picks

Except if you believe Vinny then the signing of Williams impacted their draft strategy and was at least a partial reason for not drafting any linemen.

MTK
04-27-2009, 09:09 AM
Except if you believe Vinny then the signing of Williams impacted their draft strategy and was at least a partial reason for not drafting any linemen.

That seems to be the case.

freddyg12
04-27-2009, 11:32 AM
Yeah, way better than Jamon Meredith in the 5th.

Considering your screen name, I'm assuming some sarcasm here?
After just reading a little about him & seeing him constantly listed on Kiper's "best available" during the draft, I thought Meredith made a lot more sense than an inside LB project who'd only played a year at LB & would've likely been available later.

Another year where they apparently stuck to the board, for better or worse.

Paintrain
04-27-2009, 11:45 AM
Also found it curious from the article Malcolm Kelly still can't do anything. He's not been able to do all the off-season work w/ JC and develop that chemistry and timing. I would say Kelly isn't likely to contribute anything this year...he just hasn't been able to develop at all since we drafted him. And it's unsettling how there's really nothing said about when he's expected to be fully healthy...his knee sounds like it's FUBAR.

...Vinny is a lousy evaluator IMHO.

Kelly said last week that he is rehabbing from the most recent (January) procedure on the knee and all along the target date was the June mini camp. He can run a straight line but they don't want him cutting right now. Their entire focus is on getting the muscles around the knee stronger because when he hurt it in college he rehabbed but didn't continue to strengthen (maintenance basically) which led to it giving him problems again. He is working the plan to get ready for the season, not a May minicamp. As for 'talent' he was universally considered ready to make an impact based on early showings in camp before his injury popped up.

Help me break down our line real quick...

Samuels (RT) Dockery (LG) Rabach (C) Thomas (RG) Williams (RT)

If samuels gets hurt and Williams doesn't pan out, we are stuck with an average center a very old right gaurd and the newly bills released LG dockery. To assume that Williams was brought in as the presumptive starter would be a false premise. He's in on a one year vet min deal. That screams depth/camp body. The depth chart at RT is Heyer, Jansen, Williams-in that order. If Williams really makes huge strides in the next 12 weeks and can enter camp in great shape he might be a factor but there's about a 25% chance of that actually happening.

As for the rest of the line, if any team loses their pro-bowl LT they are pretty much screwed. Nobody has had a negative view on the Dockery signing and there's hope/an expectation internally that Rinehart will be able to step up to fill in if Thomas goes down. Rabach is what he is (average) but he's in the last year of his deal so his replacement is on the way (if not on the roster).

The gloom and doom around here in April(!) is pretty amazing.

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