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tryfuhl 04-24-2009, 01:27 PM You don't need a cannon arm if you have a receiver that you can hit early and in stride. We're pretty sure that Campbell won't be here next year and I doubt that we're interested in Freeman, so that's what I can come up with. Wish we'd hold out for next year but oh well.
Monksdown 04-24-2009, 01:33 PM to make a splash that will hopefully cover up the big "boo-boo" we got when we failed to land who Danny really wanted, Cutler.
GMScud 04-24-2009, 01:40 PM I've accepted it seems inevitable, I'm just saying F it, put us out of our misery already. It's not like we have any control.
Well, we said the same thing about Cutler - that it was inevitable. I think we both made comments along the lines of, "get used to him, because it's going to happen."
I honestly think he's going to Seattle at #4, and I don't think we have as much ammo to make a move as teams like the Jets and Bucs.
If I had to make a prediction I'd say we stay at #13, and end up picking one of the big 4 tackles or the best LB or DE available.
tryfuhl 04-24-2009, 01:44 PM I can't think of any reason to give up a draft pick or picks to draft him. Not one. Not for this team. Our Qb situation is solid. We've got a young guy, an older guy and JC going into his 5th year. I watched 5-6 USC games. Sanchez is a good system QB, but not a guy who can carry an offense. He doesn't have Jay Culter skills...that's for sure. He doesn't even have better physical skills than Campbell. He's just more of a vocal leader, impresses people in interviews and is getting a ton of hype from Trent Dilfer. Did Dilfer watch the Oregon State game????
everybody is talking about a single game
I know that you only have one full season to work with but damn
all qb's have shitty days
tryfuhl 04-24-2009, 01:45 PM So much of this Sanchez talk is almost identical to five years ago...Why are we giving up draft picks for Campbell when we've already got Ramsey? If Campbell is gone, as a Redskins fan I can only hope he finds the same success in the league as Ramsey has.
Good point, I hadn't even thought of that.
skinsfan69 04-24-2009, 01:45 PM Not to defend Sanchez, but to call him a system QB is an endorsement to draft him since the system he was in is similar to our system so by your logic he will be effective.
Judging someone solely on their worst game is no more responsible than judging them solely on their best game.
Yes I am judging him on that game... and a few others. If what Smoot is saying is true, which is they want a guy who can carry us when we have injuries and so forth, then why in the world are we looking at this guy? I didn't see any USC games where Sanchez faced adversity and had to bring his team from behind. And the few games he did face adversity he played like sub par. I mean if he's so great why didn't he beat out Booty? Booty, Leinart and Sanchez are all the same guy to me. Very good college players but they'll never be great pro's, just good ones. Not one of those guys have Carson Palmer ability so I see no reason to make a trade.
GTripp0012 04-24-2009, 01:46 PM Campbell is too old. There, I said it.
We talk a lot about defensive prospects being less likely to bust here because the environment is good for young defensive players. Well, we're actively working to create the opposite effect for a skill position on the offense. Kelly and Thomas are way more likely to bust when there is no stability at the QB position, and Sanchez simply isn't going to succeed where Campbell failed.
Here's the thing: whatever is good with Sanchez' developmental curve won't matter because it's not like we're all going to be patient with him all of a sudden. Matt Ryan was successful as a rookie because the Falcons spent years, and years trying to put an offense around Vick, and you got Chris Redman in there, and Redman enjoyed some success, and Ryan just happened to be a lot better than Redman.
But the pieces were already in place: two young receivers, a young-improving OL, and a new-refreshing coaching staff. I realize Kelly and Thomas could help with a guy like Sanchez, but they need all the help they can get right now themselves. Sorry, this move has like a 0% chance of success if we pull it off.
Paintrain 04-24-2009, 01:46 PM Well, we said the same thing about Cutler - that it was inevitable. I think we both made comments along the lines of, "get used to him, because it's going to happen."
I honestly think he's going to Seattle at #4, and I don't think we have as much ammo to make a move as teams like the Jets and Bucs.
If I had to make a prediction I'd say we stay at #13, and end up picking one of the big 4 tackles or the best LB or DE available.
If we stay at #13 and Orapko is gone I'd expect us to trade down, maybe twice (Jets or Bucs for Freeman at #13 and once more into the late 1st). Imagine the outcry from the fans if we actually accumulate picks!!!
GridIron26 04-24-2009, 01:58 PM If we stay at #13 and Orapko is gone I'd expect us to trade down, maybe twice (Jets or Bucs for Freeman at #13 and once more into the late 1st). Imagine the outcry from the fans if we actually accumulate picks!!!
This would make my day - assuming we draft a good T along with Mack..
warriorzpath 04-24-2009, 02:08 PM Sanchez appears to have the positive traits that Campbell doesn't have (which Snyder obviously covets) - being an on-field and off-field vocal leader, and a polished media image and demeanor.
His play on the field also has the potential to be better than Campbell, but at this point - there's too much media attention on his positives to be able to separate the hype from what's real. The game that USC lost to Oregon State may be a fluke game for Sanchez, but that's what left a bad impression with me on his play. He was off all game and I really thought he was the one who lost it for them.
I am not sold on him enough to trade up, but might be leaning on taking him at 13 (I would hate passing up on an OT or DE though). I think that he may be what the redskins are lacking because of his leadership skills and his on-field potential. Jason Campbell, for all that he has shown and done, still hasn't seemed to reach his potential even though he has played a few years in this league already. Much of this has to do with the redskins instability on offense, but this is the redskins way since snyder has been with the redskins and should now be accepted as one of the hazards to being a redskins qb (and player). Sanchez may also be a better fit to handle this.
So bottomline, it's all about drafting a potential leader for the redskins - on and off the field.
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