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Monkeydad 01-18-2010, 02:27 PM Just what does everyone think of Sanchez now?
Best offensive line in the NFL, best running game, #1-ranked defense...these things can make ANY bad QB look great. Look at his pathetic stats. 20 INTs was second only to Jay Cutler. He had only 12 TD passes. His meager 162 yds/gm was near the bottom from starting QBs, ranked just behind the RAMS' Marc Bulger and just ahead of the benched 49ers QB Shaun Hill. Even the Tampa Bay QBs (Leftwich/Johnson) were way ahead of him in that category. How do the Jets win with such a bad QB? Simple, they don't rely on him and run as much as possible to avoid putting him in situations to fail.
The Jets have FOUR 1st-round draft picks on their offensive line. It shows.
If he had been our QB, he would have far out-mistaked Cutler with probably 35 INTs, IF and this is a BIG IF...he had survived to play all season with our offensive line, or lack thereof. We would have been a 1- or 2-win team...maybe, if we had Sanchez all year (and Collins seeing action when Mark is in the hospital).
Son Of Man 01-18-2010, 03:15 PM I don't get all the hype. He throws the ball 15 times a game and most of the passes are 5 yards. He makes a play here and there but pretty much any NFL QB could play in the Jets offense. Yeah he's a rah rah guy, big deal. I'm not sold on the guy yet. Clearly the Jets defense and running game are winning games, not Sanchez. I'm glad we didn't take him.
Steelers did the same thing with Ben Rothlisberger his forst year...now look at him 2 championships later!!!
Chevy13 01-18-2010, 03:21 PM Its pretty simple; If you give your QB a solid OL, for the most part, he will succeed
If you give your QB a poor OL, he will not succeed (unless he's Peyton Manning)
or Aaron Rodgers
BigHairedAristocrat 01-18-2010, 04:38 PM Sanchez isn't very good, but he's improved over the guy he was earlier in the season, and most importantly, he's in the right place at the right time.
he's better than most rookie QBs and far superior to ANY of the QBs available in this year's draft. That said, i'm very happy with Orakpo.
Kalisto2010 01-18-2010, 04:55 PM Here's the thing everyone is missing about Sanchez. He made some critical throws yesterday. Most notably, the key 3rd down during the 4th quarter, and the clutch TD pass to put them up 10 to 7. Yes, he only threw for like 93 yards, but most of those passes counted. Sanchez has one receiver, besides Jericho Cotchery he doesn't have a dependable go to guy.
Also, Sanchez is a remarkable leader, his enthusiasm and positive attitude reverberates throughout his entire team. That's something that Jason Campbell is missing. He's to laconic to be a leader in this epoch of the NFL, where leadership at the QB position is vitally important. One of my female friends who's also Redskins fan summed it up like this. "Jason Campbell is the type of guy you want marrying your daughter, not someone to lead you through the hostile trenches of the NFC east"
Kalisto2010 01-18-2010, 05:00 PM One more thing I'd like to add. Living in the Bay-Area, naturally I listen to local sports radio stations daily. And the myriad of excuses that JC's fans make for him, are the same excuses being made for Alex Smith. It's everyone else's fault that the team isn't winning but his. They blame the offensive line, even though Sean Hill played behind the same offensive line, the only difference his, he's 7-0 at home, has an overall winning record, while Alex Smith is deplorable at home, and has a losing record. I can't wait to hear everyones excuses for JC next year, once O-line isn't an issue. He's still going to play to conservative, unable to read defenses, and will fail to lead us to one playoff victory.
Dirtbag59 01-18-2010, 05:07 PM Steelers did the same thing with Ben Rothlisberger his forst year...now look at him 2 championships later!!!
Difference is that Roethlisberger was good right out of the gate. 15-1 record along with a 98.1 QB rating. Not saying that Sanchez will be a bust, but we'll see how well he does as he's given more responsibility next year.
MonkFan4Life 01-18-2010, 05:14 PM Kalisto I couldn't have said it ANY better.
Ruhskins 01-18-2010, 05:42 PM Here's the thing everyone is missing about Sanchez. He made some critical throws yesterday. Most notably, the key 3rd down during the 4th quarter, and the clutch TD pass to put them up 10 to 7. Yes, he only threw for like 93 yards, but most of those passes counted. Sanchez has one receiver, besides Jericho Cotchery he doesn't have a dependable go to guy.
Also, Sanchez is a remarkable leader, his enthusiasm and positive attitude reverberates throughout his entire team. That's something that Jason Campbell is missing. He's to laconic to be a leader in this epoch of the NFL, where leadership at the QB position is vitally important. One of my female friends who's also Redskins fan summed it up like this. "Jason Campbell is the type of guy you want marrying your daughter, not someone to lead you through the hostile trenches of the NFC east"
Enthusiasm and positive attitude cannot block defensive lineman. Once again, horrible attitude of Redskins fans to think that if you replace the QB positive, everything will be fine. Maybe Vinny Cerrato has brain washed all fans and lead them to believe that offensive lines are not important.
Ruhskins 01-18-2010, 05:47 PM One more thing I'd like to add. Living in the Bay-Area, naturally I listen to local sports radio stations daily. And the myriad of excuses that JC's fans make for him, are the same excuses being made for Alex Smith. It's everyone else's fault that the team isn't winning but his. They blame the offensive line, even though Sean Hill played behind the same offensive line, the only difference his, he's 7-0 at home, has an overall winning record, will Alex Smith is deplorable at home, and has a losing record. I can't wait to hear everyones excuses for JC next year, once O-line isn't an issue. He's still going to play to conservative, unable to read defenses, and will fail to lead us to one playoff victory.
Well, I'm sure Shanahan will not hesitate to pull Campbell. Although I'm glad to hear that you can't wait for him to fail. Regardless of whether JC does well or not, this team is not going to be built overnight in one season. We have a lot of holes to fill, and it will start with the o-line.
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