Half Assed Rebuilding Mode

I'd be more willing if I wasn't convinced that every other year we'd restart the whole process. If we ever actually tried to rebuild in a real way it'd be by spending 3 straight years of fully complimented drafts executed well. That's all it takes.

I have been a big DS backer but even I am getting wary of his inability (apparently) to understand how this league works. There isn't a single team out there that has built a consistent winner by trading away draft picks. Free agency has it's place...as a compliment to building your team solidly through drafting. The dalliance with Sanchez is baffling to me.

Well, I think as fans we're as a whole remarkably impatient. Why isn't Rinehart starting? Why isn't Devin Thomas leading the league in receiving yards? But that's fine I guess. We can be impatient, but Snyder and co. don't need to be. They don't need to be fans or listen to the fans. They're supposed to be the voices of reason against the fans' insanity. That's why I find it amusing how people complain how the Redskins don't care or listen to the fans. That's not what I want them doing.

Well, I think as fans we're as a whole remarkably impatient. Why isn't Rinehart starting? Why isn't Devin Thomas leading the league in receiving yards? But that's fine I guess. We can be impatient, but Snyder and co. don't need to be. They don't need to be fans or listen to the fans. They're supposed to be the voices of reason against the fans' insanity. That's why I find it amusing how people complain how the Redskins don't care or listen to the fans. That's not what I want them doing.

Agreed.

I believe that the problem is that the owner is the Redskins' #1 fan and he pushes his FO to do the same short-sighted things that many of us would do.

My understanding on building a roster is, first you have see what's going on within your division (we play 6 games there). You have to watch what the Cowboys, Giants and Eagles do. All 3 of those teams have formidable DLines and pretty good OLines. You have to build to compete against them.

Last year our weaknesses were our OL pass protection and our D getting tired on the 4th quarter and wilting against physical teams and lack of a pass rush. Our LB's were either hurt, old or tired from carrying the load of trying to make up for the lack of quality starters. We addressed the DL by signing Haynesworth which most people in this forum said that the lack of push up the middle was our main weakness in Defense.

My question is since most people say that DLinemen or nose guards are more important than a DE, then why are we trying to draft an OT instead of a C/G to control that part of the line?

I would draft Alex Mack to protect the middle (he can handle most anyone), then a LB, followed by a DE and an OT.

I would love to see our OL look like this:

Samuels, Dockery, Mack, Devin Clark or Rinehart, Jansen/Heyer.

Half-assed rebuilding? I don't know what this is? Honestly, I have no clue what this is all about.

There is one good point to all of this. Next year we'll have a first rounder in the top five if Danny doesn't trade it away tomorrow. Now that would be the lowest of the low. If he does that this isn't rebuilding. That would be throwing the pot in for one lucky roll of the dice.

Nice Avatar Angry. At least it's not the Cowboys.

What if all of this is just smoke screen and we are really not interested in Sanchez, but we are interested in what we can get for Sanchez or the position to draft him and possibly Campbell on draft day. (Keeping 3 way trade in mind)

Maybe the FO really likes Colt in the long term? Oh crap wait, just saying that makes me part of some frowned upon cult now.

I am just trying to understand this whole fiasco, because acquiring Sanchez just does not make sense. Risking letting Campbell go by trying to acquire Sanchez makes even less sense unless we believe that we have a QB on the roster now. Even the Almighty Sanchez cannot block for himself.

HEY! What's up with the ravens avatar?

I'd LOVE to think this is positioning...for some reason I see Snyder as a straight shooter, he's not the type to be that clever...but hey, I REALLY hope I am wrong.

Seriously, if this were some kind of smokescreen, then it would be one of the most ill conceived in recent memory. What is the endgame? Who is it that we are secretly pining for? More picks? The only realistic trade partner would be the jets at this point if sanchez somehow falls to us and we can get the jets to swap spots. But that is wholly unrealistic, idiotic gamble to take with your current starting qb and overall team chemistry.

Those claiming this is a masterful subterfuge by D$ are either off their meds or the biggest wishful thinkers I've ever heard of.

Well, I think as fans we're as a whole remarkably impatient. Why isn't Rinehart starting? Why isn't Devin Thomas leading the league in receiving yards? But that's fine I guess. We can be impatient, but Snyder and co. don't need to be. They don't need to be fans or listen to the fans. They're supposed to be the voices of reason against the fans' insanity. That's why I find it amusing how people complain how the Redskins don't care or listen to the fans. That's not what I want them doing.

Agreed. I don't want them listening to MOST fans. Some fans are reasonable. I think I am generally pretty patient with thsi team and Snyder. I am starting to lose it. The constant starting and restarting is grating.

Agreed.

I believe that the problem is that the owner is the Redskins' #1 fan and he pushes his FO to do the same short-sighted things that many of us would do.

I think you're partly right. He owns the team but he really shouldn't be involved with football decisions. Money decisions absolutly but anything involving evaluation of talent is out. I USED to think the assertions that he was involved in those kinds of decisions were stupid. Now when I hear Dan Synder is enamored with Mark Sanchez it makes me wonder why Snyder is involved in a way that allows him to be "enamored" and affect our drafting.

I think the owner and FO need to be willing to be terrible for the sake of the long term success. I do not think they are willing.
Snyderratto has proven time and time again that they do not have the patience to build through the draft, not the fans. Look at the spending in FA this offseason. Just when I thought he learned from Gibbs, he goes out and signs Albert to the richest contract for a defensive player in the history of the NFL. At a time when we have many many holes to fill.
To be fair not all the moves have been bad.

In the 10 seasons Snyder has owned the team we have had 6 head coaches. Six head coaches in ten years, not to mention the diffrent offensive systems our players have had to learn.

Here is the sad list of starting Qb's during Snyder's tenure:

1) Brad Johnson (only good one and we cut him)
2) Jeff George (head case/borderline retard)
3) Tony Banks (wow what a winner)
4) Shane Matthews (not qualified)
5) Patrick Ramsey (not qualified)
6) Danny Wuerffel (sucked)
7) Tim Hasselbeck (not qualified)
8) Back to Patrick Ramsey
9) Mark Brunnell (past his prime)
10) Jason Campbell (different offense every year, no line last year)
11) Todd Collins (due to injury)
12) Back to Jason Campbell


We are going to trust them to pick another QB when we do not even know for sure if Campbell is the real deal or not?
Put a good line in front of Campbell and give him a fair chance. Build the lines first then get your dream QB.
Vinny and Dan were skipping school and out getting getting high on the day they taught how to build a team through the draft and keep your picks day.

After watching the 10 greatest drafts show on NFL Net last night, it reinforced more that all the great "Dynasty" teams were built primarily through the draft. I am talking about great drafts top to bottom. We currently do not have the FO that is capable to draft like that.

Sorry this is so long.

I think the owner and FO need to be willing to be terrible for the sake of the long term success. I do not think they are willing.
Snyderratto has proven time and time again that they do not have the patience to build through the draft, not the fans. Look at the spending in FA this offseason. Just when I thought he learned from Gibbs, he goes out and signs Albert to the richest contract for a defensive player in the history of the NFL. At a time when we have many many holes to fill.
To be fair not all the moves have been bad.

In the 10 seasons Snyder has owned the team we have had 6 head coaches. Six head coaches in ten years, not to mention the diffrent offensive systems our players have had to learn.

Here is the sad list of starting Qb's during Snyder's tenure:

1) Brad Johnson (only good one and we cut him)
2) Jeff George (head case/borderline retard)
3) Tony Banks (wow what a winner)
4) Shane Matthews (not qualified)
5) Patrick Ramsey (not qualified)
6) Danny Wuerffel (sucked)
7) Tim Hasselbeck (not qualified)
8) Back to Patrick Ramsey
9) Mark Brunnell (past his prime)
10) Jason Campbell (different offense every year, no line last year)
11) Todd Collins (due to injury)
12) Back to Jason Campbell


We are going to trust them to pick another QB when we do not even know for sure if Campbell is the real deal or not?
Put a good line in front of Campbell and give him a fair chance. Build the lines first then get your dream QB.
Vinny and Dan were skipping school and out getting getting high on the day they taught how to build a team through the draft and keep your picks day.

After watching the 10 greatest drafts show on NFL Net last night, it reinforced more that all the great "Dynasty" teams were built primarily through the draft. I am talking about great drafts top to bottom. We currently do not have the FO that is capable to draft like that.

Sorry this is so long.
Don't apologize. Great Post! I agree with everything you said Defensewins and I just wish the FO had as good a grip on what it takes to become a winning team as you do. The only thing I disagree with is Jeff George, I think Borderline Retard is being too kind. :)