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Lotus

04-25-2009, 02:04 AM

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fwiw i was a huge colt brennan fan in college, he is arguably the best college QB of all time and didnt get credit for it because of the talent(or lack there of) in his conference. He was a much better QB than Timmy Chang(who set the record for most interceptions as well as several positive college records) who he actually replaced as hawaii's starting QB after chang went undrafted. Many consider brennan(or any hawaii QB) to be a system QB. i find that argument hard to swallow. I think brennan was asked to do something that many players probably couldnt do. and he did it better than any other QB has ever done. His transition to the pros was expected to be slow and tedious as indicated by his draft position.

He has a low release, which coupled with his shorter frame, makes his passes more likely to be tipped. His arm strength isnt elite, but his accuracy is and IMO he was a steal that late in the draft. He and Mike Hart RB, michigan were the 2 players i was looking forward to in the draft and they slipped so far that i forgot about them

i could go on but it seems like you guys have already had this argument

he was the main reason i came to this board; i wanted to see if you guys(redskins fans) thought he was any good or capable of carrying the/a team

He may get good enough to start. It'll take time IMO. You are right about his accuracy but his decision making needs serious work and that sidearm release is going to get him in trouble.

As for his college record, I really enjoyed watching him in college. However, the NFL is a very different animal and you can throw college stats out the window. If you don't believe me, I have 5 words: "Andre Ware and David Klingler."

skins89moss

04-25-2009, 02:09 AM

I think the owner and FO need to be willing to be terrible for the sake of the long term success. I do not think they are willing.
Snyderratto has proven time and time again that they do not have the patience to build through the draft, not the fans. Look at the spending in FA this offseason. Just when I thought he learned from Gibbs, he goes out and signs Albert to the richest contract for a defensive player in the history of the NFL. At a time when we have many many holes to fill.
To be fair not all the moves have been bad.

In the 10 seasons Snyder has owned the team we have had 6 head coaches. Six head coaches in ten years, not to mention the diffrent offensive systems our players have had to learn.

Here is the sad list of starting Qb's during Snyder's tenure:

1) Brad Johnson (only good one and we cut him)
2) Jeff George (head case/borderline retard)
3) Tony Banks (wow what a winner)
4) Shane Matthews (not qualified)
5) Patrick Ramsey (not qualified)
6) Danny Wuerffel (sucked)
7) Tim Hasselbeck (not qualified)
8) Back to Patrick Ramsey
9) Mark Brunnell (past his prime)
10) Jason Campbell (different offense every year, no line last year)
11) Todd Collins (due to injury)
12) Back to Jason Campbell

We are going to trust them to pick another QB when we do not even know for sure if Campbell is the real deal or not?
Put a good line in front of Campbell and give him a fair chance. Build the lines first then get your dream QB.
Vinny and Dan were skipping school and out getting getting high on the day they taught how to build a team through the draft and keep your picks day.

After watching the 10 greatest drafts show on NFL Net last night, it reinforced more that all the great "Dynasty" teams were built primarily through the draft. I am talking about great drafts top to bottom. We currently do not have the FO that is capable to draft like that.

Sorry this is so long.

I totally agree with you that we do not have stability at the most important positions HC and QB. Teams that have that will normally be a successful franchise. We have been a mediocrity at best since DS purchased the Redskins.


	Commanders Post at The Warpath > Commanders Football > Locker Room Main Forum > Half Assed Rebuilding Mode PDA Half Assed Rebuilding Mode Pages : 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 [12] Lotus 04-25-2009, 02:04 AM we /wi/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [wee] Show IPA –plural pronoun, possessive our or ours, objective us. 1. nominative pl. of I. 2. (used to denote oneself and another or others): We have two children. In this block we all own our own houses. 3. (used to denote people in general): the marvels of science that we take for granted. fwiw i was a huge colt brennan fan in college, he is arguably the best college QB of all time and didnt get credit for it because of the talent(or lack there of) in his conference. He was a much better QB than Timmy Chang(who set the record for most interceptions as well as several positive college records) who he actually replaced as hawaii's starting QB after chang went undrafted. Many consider brennan(or any hawaii QB) to be a system QB. i find that argument hard to swallow. I think brennan was asked to do something that many players probably couldnt do. and he did it better than any other QB has ever done. His transition to the pros was expected to be slow and tedious as indicated by his draft position. He has a low release, which coupled with his shorter frame, makes his passes more likely to be tipped. His arm strength isnt elite, but his accuracy is and IMO he was a steal that late in the draft. He and Mike Hart RB, michigan were the 2 players i was looking forward to in the draft and they slipped so far that i forgot about them i could go on but it seems like you guys have already had this argument he was the main reason i came to this board; i wanted to see if you guys(redskins fans) thought he was any good or capable of carrying the/a team He may get good enough to start. It'll take time IMO. You are right about his accuracy but his decision making needs serious work and that sidearm release is going to get him in trouble. As for his college record, I really enjoyed watching him in college. However, the NFL is a very different animal and you can throw college stats out the window. If you don't believe me, I have 5 words: "Andre Ware and David Klingler." skins89moss 04-25-2009, 02:09 AM I think the owner and FO need to be willing to be terrible for the sake of the long term success. I do not think they are willing. Snyderratto has proven time and time again that they do not have the patience to build through the draft, not the fans. Look at the spending in FA this offseason. Just when I thought he learned from Gibbs, he goes out and signs Albert to the richest contract for a defensive player in the history of the NFL. At a time when we have many many holes to fill. To be fair not all the moves have been bad. In the 10 seasons Snyder has owned the team we have had 6 head coaches. Six head coaches in ten years, not to mention the diffrent offensive systems our players have had to learn. Here is the sad list of starting Qb's during Snyder's tenure: 1) Brad Johnson (only good one and we cut him) 2) Jeff George (head case/borderline retard) 3) Tony Banks (wow what a winner) 4) Shane Matthews (not qualified) 5) Patrick Ramsey (not qualified) 6) Danny Wuerffel (sucked) 7) Tim Hasselbeck (not qualified) 8) Back to Patrick Ramsey 9) Mark Brunnell (past his prime) 10) Jason Campbell (different offense every year, no line last year) 11) Todd Collins (due to injury) 12) Back to Jason Campbell We are going to trust them to pick another QB when we do not even know for sure if Campbell is the real deal or not? Put a good line in front of Campbell and give him a fair chance. Build the lines first then get your dream QB. Vinny and Dan were skipping school and out getting getting high on the day they taught how to build a team through the draft and keep your picks day. After watching the 10 greatest drafts show on NFL Net last night, it reinforced more that all the great "Dynasty" teams were built primarily through the draft. I am talking about great drafts top to bottom. We currently do not have the FO that is capable to draft like that. Sorry this is so long. I totally agree with you that we do not have stability at the most important positions HC and QB. Teams that have that will normally be a successful franchise. We have been a mediocrity at best since DS purchased the Redskins.