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Defensewins 04-20-2009, 05:32 PM According to Snyder "one of my worst moves"
(9/1/2006Washingtonian Magazine Article)
The Dan Snyder You Don't Know - Sports (washingtonian.com) (http://www.washingtonian.com/articles/sports/1679.html)
Snyder took over the Washington Redskins on July 14, 1999. He inherited Norv Turner as coach and Charley Casserly as general manager.
“They were fighting like cats and dogs,” he says. “We were in trouble. I couldn’t have these two guys sniping at one another.”
So he fired Casserly in September.
“You fired the wrong guy,” Casserly told him.
“If you’re right,” Snyder shot back, “you’ll be one of the first to know.”
Snyder also fired a bunch of longtime front-office workers. He brought in his own PR team, lead by Karl Swanson.
Hoping for a quick trip to the Super Bowl, he paid big money for aging stars Bruce Smith and Deion Sanders.
Snyder stuck with Norv Turner through the 1999 season, which was lackluster. With three games left in the 2000 season, the Redskins had a 7–6 record, and Snyder lost patience. He called Turner into his office at 11 am on December 4 and let him go.
“It was one of my worst moves,” he says. “It was plain stupid. I was a new owner pissed about losing.”
It was also the first move that showed fans and reporters Dan Snyder’s impatient side. In business, Snyder could replace a manager in the dead of night with a phone call. The Redskins were considered a public utility, and every move was blared in the media and dissected on sports-radio talk shows.
After Snyder fired Turner, he says, he called Casserly and said, “You were right.”
SC Skins Fan 04-20-2009, 05:43 PM According to Snyder "one of my worst moves" he made
(9/1/2006Washingtonian Magazine Article)
The Dan Snyder You Don't Know - Sports (washingtonian.com) (http://www.washingtonian.com/articles/sports/1679.html)
Snyder took over the Washington Redskins on July 14, 1999. He inherited Norv Turner as coach and Charley Casserly as general manager.
“They were fighting like cats and dogs,” he says. “We were in trouble. I couldn’t have these two guys sniping at one another.”
So he fired Casserly in September.
“You fired the wrong guy,” Casserly told him.
“If you’re right,” Snyder shot back, “you’ll be one of the first to know.”
Snyder also fired a bunch of longtime front-office workers. He brought in his own PR team, lead by Karl Swanson.
Hoping for a quick trip to the Super Bowl, he paid big money for aging stars Bruce Smith and Deion Sanders.
Snyder stuck with Norv Turner through the 1999 season, which was lackluster. With three games left in the 2000 season, the Redskins had a 7–6 record, and Snyder lost patience. He called Turner into his office at 11 am on December 4 and let him go.
“It was one of my worst moves,” he says. “It was plain stupid. I was a new owner pissed about losing.”
It was also the first move that showed fans and reporters Dan Snyder’s impatient side. In business, Snyder could replace a manager in the dead of night with a phone call. The Redskins were considered a public utility, and every move was blared in the media and dissected on sports-radio talk shows.
After Snyder fired Turner, he says, he called Casserly and said, “You were right.”
1999 Lackluster? Compared to what? The '98 Vikings or '07 Patriots? That was a fun team. I still contend that if Andy Heck wasn't injured, forcing Kip fing Vickers into action against Simeon Rice the Skins win that game against Tampa and go to the NFC Championship. Forget the botched snap, Vickers lost the game. [end flashback].
Ruhskins 04-20-2009, 05:45 PM 1) Adam Archuleta - the worst free agent pickup by any team, ever!
2) Deion Sanders - no tackling, showboating, often-injured, waste of a uniform, Cowturd
3) Brandon Lloyd - can't catch a cold!
4) T.J. Duckett- Tip toe through the tulips...through the tulips.
5) Antonio Pierce - just as he became a stud, moneybags didn't resign him.
Dan Snyder, Dumb and Vinny Cerano, Dumber.
I think what's sad about this, is that these happened during Gibbs 2.0, which makes me wonder during these pick ups, how did the decision-making process worked?
Lotus 04-20-2009, 06:22 PM 1999 Lackluster? Compared to what? The '98 Vikings or '07 Patriots? That was a fun team. I still contend that if Andy Heck wasn't injured, forcing Kip fing Vickers into action against Simeon Rice the Skins win that game against Tampa and go to the NFC Championship. Forget the botched snap, Vickers lost the game. [end flashback].
You may be right about Vickers but my visual memory of that botched snap still hurts and my face likely still scrunches in disbelief.
1999 Lackluster? Compared to what? The '98 Vikings or '07 Patriots? That was a fun team. I still contend that if Andy Heck wasn't injured, forcing Kip fing Vickers into action against Simeon Rice the Skins win that game against Tampa and go to the NFC Championship. Forget the botched snap, Vickers lost the game. [end flashback].
Yeah '99 was a fun team, on offense at least.
I think the lackluster part was meant to be in reference to 2000.
skins89moss 04-23-2009, 02:27 AM 1. Hiring Spurrier and not hiring Marvin Lewis as Head Coach
2.Firing Marty after 1 season of 8-8. Just when the team started to respond to his style.
3.Looking to sign the next high profile old free agent ( Sanders, B.Smith, J. George,J.Taylor,M.Carrier,M.Brunell). Brunell did give Jason time to learn, but we change systems every year.
4.Not keeping good Redskin players ( A.Pierce, B. Mitchell,Ryan Clark, Brad Johnson Super Bowl QB.) Damm all these players have won a Super Bowl ring since they depart DC.
5.Not hiring Gregg Williams as Head Coach. We need a defensive mind coach that can make this team physically and mentallity tougher.
Thats my idea of his worst moves thus far.
6.Getting rid of Jason Campbell is on the horizon.
I think my list is about right compare to the others.
53Fan 04-23-2009, 11:54 AM 1999 Lackluster? Compared to what? The '98 Vikings or '07 Patriots? That was a fun team. I still contend that if Andy Heck wasn't injured, forcing Kip fing Vickers into action against Simeon Rice the Skins win that game against Tampa and go to the NFC Championship. Forget the botched snap, Vickers lost the game. [end flashback].
No one named Vickers ever loses the game. :cool-smil
redsk1 04-23-2009, 12:47 PM This years missing draft picks may apply too:
2nd rounder: Jason Taylor (gone)
4th rounder: Kendall (starter for a couple years...not a bad swap...performed well, but gone)
7th rounder: Erasmus James (gone, was he ever here)
The real problem w/ me is James and Taylor.
I liked the Taylor move at the time but as an organization don't change the rules midway thru your deal. JT wasn't ever going to work out in DC. We knew that upfront. If we knew that upfront and changed the rules then we just lost a 2nd rounder. 2nd rounders are the best picks in the draft according to GM's. You get talent at a low price tag.
James was a waste of a 7th rounder. No one wanted this guy in the entire NFL but we give up a pick. I can hear it now, but it's just a 7th rounder. These picks add up. Yes, it's hit or miss in the late rounds but it shrinks your draft pool.
Lotus 04-23-2009, 01:09 PM This years missing draft picks may apply too:
2nd rounder: Jason Taylor (gone)
4th rounder: Kendall (starter for a couple years...not a bad swap...performed well, but gone)
7th rounder: Erasmus James (gone, was he ever here)
The real problem w/ me is James and Taylor.
I liked the Taylor move at the time but as an organization don't change the rules midway thru your deal. JT wasn't ever going to work out in DC. We knew that upfront. If we knew that upfront and changed the rules then we just lost a 2nd rounder. 2nd rounders are the best picks in the draft according to GM's. You get talent at a low price tag.
James was a waste of a 7th rounder. No one wanted this guy in the entire NFL but we give up a pick. I can hear it now, but it's just a 7th rounder. These picks add up. Yes, it's hit or miss in the late rounds but it shrinks your draft pool.
You are correct. It's only a 7th to be sure. But it is better to use your 7th (Chris Horton, anyone?) than to just throw it away.
Paintrain 04-23-2009, 01:20 PM This years missing draft picks may apply too:
2nd rounder: Jason Taylor (gone)
4th rounder: Kendall (starter for a couple years...not a bad swap...performed well, but gone)
7th rounder: Erasmus James (gone, was he ever here)
The real problem w/ me is James and Taylor.
I liked the Taylor move at the time but as an organization don't change the rules midway thru your deal. JT wasn't ever going to work out in DC. We knew that upfront. If we knew that upfront and changed the rules then we just lost a 2nd rounder. 2nd rounders are the best picks in the draft according to GM's. You get talent at a low price tag.
James was a waste of a 7th rounder. No one wanted this guy in the entire NFL but we give up a pick. I can hear it now, but it's just a 7th rounder. These picks add up. Yes, it's hit or miss in the late rounds but it shrinks your draft pool.
I'm not going to kill the front office for James, a 7th round pick for a former first rounder, reunited with his college coach wasn't the worst deal in the world. For every Chris Horton there are a ton of guys who never make it out of training camp.
To say that 'we all knew upfront that Taylor wasn't going to work out' is playing MMQB to the highest level. For a guy who had never been hurt to suffer 2 leg injuries in a span of 4 weeks was just flukish. He was a year removed from winning defensive player of the year and was still very productive. We gambled and lost, it happens.
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