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John Denny 04-20-2009, 09:49 AM Excellent point Lotus. Our biggest depth issues are @ OT and LB i think (along w/ center if we acknowledge Rabach as a liability. Seems like the FO is foregoing a high rated OT in this draft cuz none are likely to fall to us. Well, i've been saying it will be totally irresponsible for us to enter the season w/ our current set of OTs - we need to add a legit guy. I think the FO needs to bite the bullet and pay a guy like Levi Jones (likely to be cut after the draft) enough money to sign w/ us...let Jansen, Heyer, new guy compete for the starting job and keep the other two as backups knowing damn well there will be injuries regardless of the who the starter is. This is common sense IMHO...so I doubt it goes down this way.
I'm not sure we'll have enough money to sign a guy like Levi Jones. We're strapped as it is after signing kolston and monty plus we have to sign our draft picks. It would be great but is probably unlikely.
SBXVII 04-20-2009, 10:06 AM I'm not sure we'll have enough money to sign a guy like Levi Jones. We're strapped as it is after signing kolston and monty plus we have to sign our draft picks. It would be great but is probably unlikely.
Ok, I'm totally lost now. We sign AH, Hall, and bring back Dock for like 180 mill with only 13 or 14 mill at the time. Right now we have 9.4 mill according to our guru's on here. Your telling me we can't sign any decent OL cause we are strapped? I know most likely the Rookie pool will be like 3 to 4 mill. So that would leave us with like 5 or 6 mill to play with still.
John Denny 04-20-2009, 10:13 AM Ok, I'm totally lost now. We sign AH, Hall, and bring back Dock for like 180 mill with only 13 or 14 mill at the time. Right now we have 9.4 mill according to our guru's on here. Your telling me we can't sign any decent OL cause we are strapped? I know most likely the Rookie pool will be like 3 to 4 mill. So that would leave us with like 5 or 6 mill to play with still.
I stand corrected.
tryfuhl 04-20-2009, 10:20 AM Ok, I'm totally lost now. We sign AH, Hall, and bring back Dock for like 180 mill with only 13 or 14 mill at the time. Right now we have 9.4 mill according to our guru's on here. Your telling me we can't sign any decent OL cause we are strapped? I know most likely the Rookie pool will be like 3 to 4 mill. So that would leave us with like 5 or 6 mill to play with still.
I say you wait till draft day at the earliest now though. Figure out if you're gonna move players, bring other ones in, if you'll pick where you're at, move up, down, both, etc.
Trade down or ship some players out and more room in the cap -- trade up, you might need to shave even more from your cap to accomodate your pick. No sense in worrying about it much till then.
GhettoDogAllStars 04-20-2009, 11:12 AM Would a 1st and 3rd be too much to trade for Jerry Rice in his prime? Not saying Boldin is there yet, but he's got the potential. A 1st and 3rd is not too much -- Boldin is special. Dude racked up 200+ yards in his first game as a pro.
Yeah, we have other needs, but I say if we can do it, then we should.
:twocents:
hooskins 04-20-2009, 11:20 AM Actually I don't know about this. Perhaps it would be worth getting Sanchez over Boldin. Only if those were my two options. The truth we already have receivers and Vinny can't give up on his draft class yet. Finally if JC really doesn't have the confidence of the FO then it's time to move on now...
Lotus 04-20-2009, 05:12 PM Would a 1st and 3rd be too much to trade for Jerry Rice in his prime? Not saying Boldin is there yet, but he's got the potential. A 1st and 3rd is not too much -- Boldin is special. Dude racked up 200+ yards in his first game as a pro.
Yeah, we have other needs, but I say if we can do it, then we should.
:twocents:
I understand what you are saying. Boldin has been a beast.
However I have 4 reservations:
1) we have bigger needs than WR and we could use those picks to fill those needs
2) Boldin wants big $$$ and likely would wreck our cap
3) How many of Boldin's exploits have been because Fitzgerald has been on the other side, distracting the defense?
4) Boldin has an injury history, is getting older, and may have a shortened career because of his hard-nosed style. We may get only 2 or 3 years out of him and maybe less
jsarno 04-20-2009, 05:19 PM I understand what you are saying. Boldin has been a beast.
However I have 4 reservations:
1) we have bigger needs than WR and we could use those picks to fill those needs
2) Boldin wants big $$$ and likely would wreck our cap
3) How many of Boldin's exploits have been because Fitzgerald has been on the other side, distracting the defense?
4) Boldin has an injury history, is getting older, and may have a shortened career because of his hard-nosed style. We may get only 2 or 3 years out of him and maybe less
Good post overall, but I wanted to comment on the bolded:
Exactly...Rice didn't have to deal with the cap like we do now since there was no cap back then. Although on a side note, he was pushed out of SF because of cap issues. If we were talking no cap involved, then ghettodogallstars would be on the right track, but we are not. We often look at the team like one would a fantasy football team and you can get anyone, but our team with the cap involved is more like a puzzle. You can't throw any piece in there and expect it to fit. Especially one as big as Boldin needing to fit into a tiny space.
gw0103 04-21-2009, 05:59 AM The Skins are gonna try to cultivate Thomas and Kelly and to bring in
Boldin would retard the effort.
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