KI Skins Fan
04-08-2009, 05:50 PM
But I think that there's an argument that can be made that size can be a hindrance to an offensive lineman if you are looking for a more athletic line that can do more than the regular power running game, which I think the ravens seem to be built for.
And that all depends on what kind of identity you want for your team.
The Hogs were synonymous with power running and, of course, Joe Bugel was their coach. I think that may be relevant to today's team because I read a recent interview with Joe Bugel where he said (to paraphrase) that he just asks the FO to give him big linemen and he can take it from there. So I don't don't think that Joe's approach has changed any.
KI Skins Fan
04-08-2009, 05:59 PM
As far as weight goes, I can defininitely see the argument for wanting bigger guys in the middle. There are a lot of 300lb. plus DT's in this league. A 288lb lineman taking on increasing bigger DT's is not a pretty sight. Especially when trying to get a "PUSH" up the middle. Since DE's are not as "weighty" it might not be as important for an OT.
I think you make a valid point. The good news is that the top 5 centers in this year's draft are all over 6-3 and 300 lbs. There are also some monster guards who I think can play, such as Duke Robinson (6-5 329), Kraig Urbik (6-5 328), and Luis Vasquez (6-5 333). There is also the humongeous Herman Johnson who goes 6-7 356.
We need more draft picks!
SirClintonPortis
04-08-2009, 08:14 PM
I think that with the prevalence of the 3-4 on many capable teams that they should emphasize more on size with the middle linemen(G and C), provided that they are comptent linemen, of course.
Steve Young wanted one the Cowboys o-lines when Norv was there in some article he wrote on ESPN way back in 2002, and that line was made for Norv's Coryell(link: ESPN.com: NFL - Young: Scheme can be QB's best friend (http://assets.espn.go.com/nfl/s/westcoast/popularity.html)).
53Fan
04-08-2009, 08:43 PM
I think that with the prevalence of the 3-4 on many capable teams that they should emphasize more on size with the middle linemen(G and C), provided that they are comptent linemen, of course.
Steve Young wanted one the Cowboys o-lines when Norv was there in some article he wrote on ESPN way back in 2002, and that line was made for Norv's Coryell(link: ESPN.com: NFL - Young: Scheme can be QB's best friend (http://assets.espn.go.com/nfl/s/westcoast/popularity.html)).
Thats a really good article!
Slingin Sammy 33
04-08-2009, 09:18 PM
Good analysis. I was thinking the same thing (see #2) :food-smil
http://www.thewarpath.net/redskins-locker-room/27766-more-portis.html#post519113
The Goat
04-08-2009, 09:21 PM
As far as weight goes, I can defininitely see the argument for wanting bigger guys in the middle. There are a lot of 300lb. plus DT's in this league. A 288lb lineman taking on increasingly bigger DT's is not a pretty sight. Especially when trying to get a "PUSH" up the middle. Since DE's are not as "weighty" it might not be as important for an OT.
Word...I mean there's been some debate whether Rabach's size is a factor in his paltry performance. I tend to think it makes a difference. He's 6-4 and under 290 making him almost "lanky" for an interior lineman. If he was 6-1 and the same weight, w/ a lower center of gravity, he'd probably get pushed around far less than he currently does. I'm on board w/ the Mack movement 53...just don't know how likely it is w/ our stupid draft situation.
53Fan
04-08-2009, 09:29 PM
Word...I mean there's been some debate whether Rabach's size is a factor in his paltry performance. I tend to think it makes a difference. He's 6-4 and under 290 making him almost "lanky" for an interior lineman. If he was 6-1 and the same weight, w/ a lower center of gravity, he'd probably get pushed around far less than he currently does. I'm on board w/ the Mack movement 53...just don't know how likely it is w/ our stupid draft situation.
How important is that 2nd rounder for JT now? :doh:
The Goat
04-08-2009, 10:21 PM
How important is that 2nd rounder for JT now? :doh:
No doubt...such a disappointing outcome. Lesson to be learned: don't f w/ the Tuna cuz he'll eat u for lunch :)
Slingin Sammy 33
04-08-2009, 10:38 PM
Word...I mean there's been some debate whether Rabach's size is a factor in his paltry performance. I tend to think it makes a difference. He's 6-4 and under 290 making him almost "lanky" for an interior lineman. If he was 6-1 and the same weight, w/ a lower center of gravity, he'd probably get pushed around far less than he currently does. I'm on board w/ the Mack movement 53...just don't know how likely it is w/ our stupid draft situation.
How important is that 2nd rounder for JT now? :doh:
Solution: AQ Shipley with our 3rd rounder
tryfuhl
04-08-2009, 11:00 PM
As far as weight goes, I can defininitely see the argument for wanting bigger guys in the middle. There are a lot of 300lb. plus DT's in this league. A 288lb lineman taking on increasingly bigger DT's is not a pretty sight. Especially when trying to get a "PUSH" up the middle. Since DE's are not as "weighty" it might not be as important for an OT.
Yeah, we got I think 2 of the 3 smallest guys out of starters AND backups in the division. Our guys start, theirs don't.