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persepolis 04-02-2009, 11:41 AM Here's my take on it:
Campbell is a good quarterback, the problem isn't with Campbell, the problem begins and ends with the O-line.
You can take a superbowl MVP like Eli Manning (albeit, he isn't a top QB, but still, considered a good one) and put behind our line, and he'll be getting sacked so hard that Payton will hurt. I'd even go far enough to say that with an elite QB like Tom Brady our O-line would make him a weak QB. He'll be out for another season with injuries.
The fact of the matter is Campbell has some great strengths that can't be used to their full potential, he can scramble really well, but it's because he's forced to. If he had a good line protecting him, and was able to bust out a scramble in situations he chose instead of was forced into, I could see him being a great QB.
So bottom line, extend him, don't extend him, whatever. As long as our line sucks any QB back there will have issues.
/Take that for whats it's worth, I'm a new user, so who cares, right?
jdlea 04-02-2009, 11:46 AM Here's my take on it:
Campbell is a good quarterback, the problem isn't with Campbell, the problem begins and ends with the O-line.
You can take a superbowl MVP like Eli Manning (albeit, he isn't a top QB, but still, considered a good one) and put behind our line, and he'll be getting sacked so hard that Payton will hurt. I'd even go far enough to say that with an elite QB like Tom Brady our O-line would make him a weak QB. He'll be out for another season with injuries.
The fact of the matter is Campbell has some great strengths that can't be used to their full potential, he can scramble really well, but it's because he's forced to. If he had a good line protecting him, and was able to bust out a scramble in situations he chose instead of was forced into, I could see him being a great QB.
So bottom line, extend him, don't extend him, whatever. As long as our line sucks any QB back there will have issues.
/Take that for whats it's worth, I'm a new user, so who cares, right?
Good first post. I think you make a good point here, at the end of last season, it probably wouldn't have mattered who we had a Q, they would have been on their ass/scrambling too much to be effective. However, some people think that if you get a new QB all of those issues magically go away.
Jay Schroeder 04-02-2009, 11:48 AM Campbell is scared to throw the ball down field. Lets be honest he is a stop gap filler. Remember he is not even the quarterback that got us to the playoffs, Collins is. He is not worth the risk or another team would be trying to aquire him.
agreed
persepolis 04-02-2009, 11:56 AM However, some people think that if you get a new QB all of those issues magically go away.
Totally. And unfortunately for us, people like that OWN the redskins.
The sad fact is that while the problem is our Offensive line, the argument can be made that a good quarterback should overcome that problem and just kick ass. (I think that's asking to much. People like that are like the Superfans of the skins.. dika vs the whole leauge... no contest.)
Using that lame claim, supports of switching qb's press on because drafting/trading/switching around QB's is sexier that doing the same with O-lineman. When's the last time you were playing madden and screamed out, "Oh! In your face! Rabach is sick!"
KI Skins Fan 04-02-2009, 12:30 PM If we build up the line, JC will be a pro-bowler and have a great career with us.
I am against trading for Cutler and I'm OK with JC at QB. Nevertheless, there is NFW JC will ever be a Pro-Bowler. Good, yes. Great, no.
RedskinPete 04-02-2009, 12:42 PM I say a big no on extending JC because he has done little to get one. He is soso at best. Now if he burns up the league then he is going to make the Skins pay be the odds are that will not happen.
Monkeydad 04-02-2009, 12:45 PM I am against trading for Cutler and I'm OK with JC at QB. Nevertheless, there is NFW JC will ever be a Pro-Bowler. Good, yes. Great, no.
We can win with Campbell whether he's voted to the Pro Bowl or not. We did with Doug Williams and Mark Rypien, neither were "franchise", big-name QBs, but we built a great team around them.
Sacrificing the years we've invested in Campbell and giving away future draft picks will not allow us to accomplish this again. Cutler's price and risk are both too high.
tryfuhl 04-02-2009, 01:28 PM Why would you extend Campbell if we haven't already? If we thought that he was worth extending we wouldn't be looking at Cutler, obviously. If we don't change QBs this year there's a very good chance we will next, unless Campbell plays lights out all year long.
jsarno 04-02-2009, 04:25 PM Most of us had high expectations of Campbell going into last year, and he showed glimpses of greatness. Yes, he had his bad days, but as most of us pointed out already, that was due to a large number of factors including oline and coaching.
So I get the Campbell for Jay Cutler trade rumors cause people want better than what they have, problem is, not sure Cutler is indeed better, or a product of a MUCH MORE wide open offense. (note the ints) Although that is a comment for another thread.
My biggest beef is the amount of "Redskins to trade up to get QB in draft" suggesting Sanchez. And of course those on here that don't think a lick of Campbell. What the hell happened people? When all of sudden did Campbell go from being a "promising qb with limitless potential", to a bum that we need to replace or run out of town on a rail?
Monkeydad 04-02-2009, 04:26 PM When people on the internet said so, I guess.
I remember when people on the internet were Patrick Ramsey fans.
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