Broncos to trade Cutler

Hate to reference Peter King, but he just said on the Herd that he thinks Campbell is on the verge of being a top ten qb, and furthermore, if Snyder owned the Giants in 84, he would have gotten rid of Simms. Sad but likely true.

the one thing that worries me most is that Cutler has never won, at any level. he is obviously a big upgrade over Mr. Campbell. but this league is all about winning. and im not sure how much longer, and how many more seasons can go by, with the redskin faithful waiting for a pro bowl qback to emerge out of Jason Campbell. i say lets do it

What I am hoping for is the same thing that happened when Snyder wanted to hire Jim Fassel. The message boards freaked out and Snyder was swayed not to hire him.

Don't do it!

I thought of that too, and I have the same hope!

Interesting that the warpath poll (86 votes) and the washpost poll (1550+) both have 68% that say NO to the cutler trade.

I'm encouraged by those results. It says that the true hardcore fans (at least those that read all things skins during the offseason) feel that this deal is not good for the team.

Colin Cowherd was just saying that the only teams interested in cutler are dysfunctional in so many words, and have a history of poor evaluation of the qb position. While I could argue the details, I can't say he's overall wrong.

Memo to Danny boy: Skins fans are having a hard time disagreeing w/Colin Cowherd on this one.

Frank Hammerhan is on ESPN980 right now and he just said that Zorn has no say in any of this. Earlier in the offseason, Zorn specifically told Cerrato and Snyder that he beleived Campbell would be successful in this system... then Cerrato and Snyder do this, without his input.

This lends alot of weight to the rumors that the endgame is to land both Cutler and Shannahan.

According to Hammerhan, Snyder and Cerrato like Campbells work ethic and attitude, but they don't think he has the "IT factor." In thier opinion, Cutler does. Although the implication is that Snyder and Cerrato are both behind this, reports yesterday indicated that Cerrato was in a draft meeting when he was called out by Snyder - All evidence points to this being 100% Snyder's doing. All opinions aside on Cutler vs. Campbell, this is the most disturbing news in all of this - Snyder is still in complete control. Snyder makes all the decisions. New title aside, nothing changed in our front office: Cerrato is still just a puppet and Snyder continues to pull all the strings.

Also, for those of you able to tune in, Jason Campbell, who is at Redskins Park right now, will be on 980 at 1:45PM.

That suspicion was confirmed for me when they signed Haynesworth on day one of free agency.

For me, Snyder's influence won't be gone until Vinny is gone and a well respected GM comes to the club. Unfortunately, as witnessed when Marty was here, Snyder won't relinquish his roster influence so he won't try to hire that kind of GM.


We're in a perpetual regressive motion caused by Snyder's ego and the catch is only Snyder's humility will get us out.

I just don't know what to say, I'm in disbelieve I guess..

SmootSmack, what's ur take on this - do u think this actually would happen?

http://www.thewarpath.net/541767-post472.html

Hate to reference Peter King, but he just said on the Herd that he thinks Campbell is on the verge of being a top ten qb, and furthermore, if Snyder owned the Giants in 84, he would have gotten rid of Simms. Sad but likely true.

Peter also said and I quote "I think Spurrier will win big"

This thread has gotten way out of hand with the number of posts in it, but I wanted to weigh in. We should absolutely not trade for a QB.

If you took Cutler and put him in the Redskins offense last year, he would not have put up better numbers than Campbell did. When you have a new offense, no decent #2 or #3 WR to throw to, and a terrible RT situation as well as substandard interior OL play, I'd assert that Campbell's numbers are really about as good as you can expect. Cutler would not have done appreciably better.

I think the QB gets too much credit when things go right and too much blame when things go wrong. He's the most important player on the field, but not more important than the other 10 guys combined. We need to shore up the spots around him and let him develop, then we'll be in good shape.

This thread has gotten way out of hand with the number of posts in it, but I wanted to weigh in. We should absolutely not trade for a QB.

If you took Cutler and put him in the Redskins offense last year, he would not have put up better numbers than Campbell did. When you have a new offense, no decent #2 or #3 WR to throw to, and a terrible RT situation as well as substandard interior OL play, I'd assert that Campbell's numbers are really about as good as you can expect. Cutler would not have done appreciably better.

I think the QB gets too much credit when things go right and too much blame when things go wrong. He's the most important player on the field, but not more important than the other 10 guys combined. We need to shore up the spots around him and let him develop, then we'll be in good shape.

Schneed, do we even have the cap space to do this?

I think Cutler is a great QB, that doesn't mean i think we should trade for him. However, memo to the FO since they seem intent on following this thing thru:

We hold all of the cards here, we don't have to do anything, DO NOT overpay the Broncs 2 first round draft picks for Cutler. Let me repeat, please do not give up too much. We are in the driver's seat! We don't have to do anything. Tell the Broncs what we'll give up and if they don't take it. Tell them to go to another team.

I think Cutler is a great QB, that doesn't mean i think we should trade for him. However, memo to the FO since they seem intent on following this thing thru:

We hold all of the cards here, we don't have to do anything, DO NOT overpay the Broncs 2 first round draft picks for Cutler. Let me repeat, please do not give up too much. We are in the driver's seat! We don't have to do anything. Tell the Broncs what we'll give up and if they don't take it. Tell them to go to another team.

Unfortunately, Snyder's obsession trumps this completely. Once again, I hope that Denver realizes that they can get much better offers from other teams than the Redskins.