Broncos to trade Cutler

Just the fact that they are pent up all day in Snyders office really effin irks me for the following reasons.

1. Why the hell is Snyder involved in this crap...Don't say because of money because as of now there should be no contract talks being spoken of. It shows me that he's WAY TOO involved with the personnel process.

2. The FO is still focusing on trying to improve skill positions instead of our real issue, which is OL. They won't have a way of improving the OL this year if they trade our goods for Cutler.

3. The FO has already said that they are not making any move that involves Cutler and this is obviously contradicts every thing they've said. If you don't want people to know your business, just CLOSE YOUR MOUTH!...the FO just seems really inept with how they handle these high profile situations.

saying you're not interested stops the overinflation of value before you're ready for a move

did we ever say we weren't interested.. or just that we weren't actively pursuing?

So how do you know this is? Are you hearing this from reliable sources?

Yeah, I'd like to think they're pretty reliable. I'm not saying his teammates dislike him, or even that it's all his teammates. Just that the organization hasn't rallied around him the way you'd like to see. Some think it's Campbell's fault to an extent, because of the way he is. He's not the rah-rah, follow me to freedom kind of guy.

We've been trying to get a 2nd rounder (damn you Jason Taylor!!) for a while now. I know for sure we've dangled Santana Moss out there, and I'm almost positive we dangled Rogers out there as well.

I'm not as down on Cutler as others are, so under the right circumstances, I'm not going to flip a lid if he came here. That said, I still don't think this is where he ultimately ends up (that's just my opinion though). But either way, I don't think Campbell is the future here. I don't agree with it, I think it will be a mistake to let him go. But, as much as Redskins coaches and execs may sing his praises in public, the truth is he has limited support (even from teammates) since even before he got hurt two seasons ago. His biggest supporter is now...the QB coach in Seattle.

That's the key to whole thing right there. I've been saying it since day one of this fiasco. Cutler for Campbell straight up is a no brainer. But that's obviously never happening. It's all about how much we give up. In this case upgrading the QB position doesn't necessarily equate to upgrading the Redskins as a whole. And improving the TEAM (not wearing blinders and pigeon-holing all kinds of needs for one guy), should be the overall focus at all times.

Yeah, I'd like to think they're pretty reliable. I'm not saying his teammates dislike him, or even that it's all his teammates. Just that the organization hasn't rallied around him the way you'd like to see. Some think it's Campbell's fault to an extent, because of the way he is. He's not the rah-rah, follow me to freedom kind of guy.
He has his little quips about I know what I have, I know what I can do, just wait type things, but he's still soft-spoken so it doesn't come out Gladiator style.. more waiting in the wings style

I think that it plays more to his character and playing style to be how he is, because if he tried to come out as a hotshot he knows he'd be fooling himself and misleading the rest of us

What's the latest? There are 10 pages of posts in the last three hours. I'm not reading all that. Someone summarize it for me.

What's upsetting people the most about this alleged deal? Is it losing draft picks potentially? Is it just the idea of change again?

Yeah, I'd like to think they're pretty reliable. I'm not saying his teammates dislike him, or even that it's all his teammates. Just that the organization hasn't rallied around him the way you'd like to see. Some think it's Campbell's fault to an extent, because of the way he is. He's not the rah-rah, follow me to freedom kind of guy.

Well, Eli Manning isn't a rah-rah guy either.

Bears would love to get him, but they probably have less to offer than we do.

The top trade rumor out there is a 3-way that gets Cutler to Detroit, Quinn to Denver, and picks to Cleveland (and picks to Denver and Detroit as well)

It should be noted that contrary to popular belief, Cutler would actually kind of like the idea of playing in Detroit (he and Calvin Johnson are rumored to be pretty close, I think they share the same agent)

And that's what it should be. It makes great sense for all teams involved. I mean, what would make the most sense would be for Cutler and McDaniels to kiss and make up, but we all know that's not possible. So given the current situation, this is a great move.

Quinn is a far better prospect that Cassell ever was. McDaniels could potentially make him damn good.

He has his little quips about I know what I have, I know what I can do, just wait type things, but he's still soft-spoken so it doesn't come out Gladiator style.. more waiting in the wings style

I think that it plays more to his character and playing style to be how he is, because if he tried to come out as a hotshot he knows he'd be fooling himself and misleading the rest of us

Agreed...Campbell's leadership is exemplified when he stands tall in the pocket to deliver a strike even though a LB is inches away from crushing him cuz the line evaporated into thin air w/ "hut" and afterward Jason just picks himself up w/o complaining. I'll take his kind of leadership over the loudmouth any day of the week and twice on Sunday...but of course the quiet, non-flashy types don't create as much dollar value for the franchise as the other kind :rant:

That's the key to whole thing right there. I've been saying it since day one of this fiasco. Cutler for Campbell straight up is a no brainer. But that's obviously never happening. It's all about how much we give up. In this case upgrading the QB position doesn't necessarily equate to upgrading the Redskins as a whole. And improving the TEAM (not wearing blinders and pigeon-holing all kinds of needs for one guy), should be the overall focus at all times.

Well, as I understand it, if Campbell does end up in Denver it won't be because they wanted him but because we forced him on them

What the Redskins are reportedly proposing is not earth shattering though.