Mark Sanchez at 13th?

I think Sanchez is possible, I just don't think we're likely to be able to trade up to get him (if we had our 2nd round pick still, that might have been the case).

I think ultimately is less about Sanchez and more about Campbell. If he's not the guy in 2010 and beyond, and Colt isn't the guy until 2011 at the earliest then what do we do?
When he gets released from Seattle this offseason, Hasselbeck will be our stop-gap until Colt is ready to take the reigns (pun intended). :smashfrea

When he gets released from Seattle this offseason, Hasselbeck will be our stop-gap until Colt is ready to take the reigns (pun intended). :smashfrea

I was resisting the urge to say that :)

Why is it that Collins is never mentioned? I mean it's not like they're paying the man peanuts.

I like to think I have a bit more access to the inner machinations of NFL teams than many...but come this time of year, none of us has any idea. This is definitely the most confused about the Redskins' thoughts as I've been in a long time (and they're generally very confusing). What's most interesting in all of this it that seems that the one guy (the one key guy that is) that doesn't seem to enamored with Sanchez either by trading up or taking him at 13 is Cerrato.

The most interesting place to be right now would be in the scouting rooms around the NFL, and specifically the conversations between DS, VC, and JZ. They always say that going in they come to a overriding agreement on what the game plan is, and if I understand it, VC pulls the trigger on draft day. This week would surely be interesting to hear the confidential conversations.

Why is it that Collins is never mentioned? I mean it's not like they're paying the man peanuts.

Because he's a 38 year old career backup who was effective (and not exactly prolific-but effective) in a system that he was brought in to run and we don't run anymore. The only reason he's still on the team is because he had that playoff run. Any other offseason he'd be out looking for work and not finding much success in securing it.

Because he's a 38 year old career backup who was effective (and not exactly prolific-but effective) in a system that he was brought in to run and we don't run anymore. The only reason he's still on the team is because he had that playoff run. Any other offseason he'd be out looking for work and not finding much success in securing it.

Soups not playing in a system he was brought in either. Kurt Warner has put the age thing to rest. He sure does make a lot of money for someone that should be looking for a job.

Lol, i suppose I deserve that, but seriously - I firmly beleive Campbell will be noticably better in 2009 than he was in 2008... I just don't beleive its likely his play will be enough of an improvement for Snyder to keep Campbell - Hence all my arguments about moving on now: 1) To get compensation for Campbell; 2) to go ahead and start grooming our next (hopefully) franchise QB.

Fair point, if you're going to move in another direction, why not move now? I just don't understand why they feel the need to move on from Campbell. I like Sanchez (much more than Stafford) but is he that much of an improvement over Campbell? Heck, why not just trade for Leinart?

I like Zorn and I like Campbell - I just dont like them together. While its possible both Zorn and Campbell have success in 2009 and beyond, i dont think its likely. If you asked me to chose between the two now, i'd chose Zorn, if for no other reason than that if we fired him after 2009 and kept Campbell, Campbell would have to learn another offense and start from scratch again.

My mind must be playing tricks on me. I thought you were anti-Zorn (regardless of Campbell). And if it's Gruden or Shanahan (or even Holmgren) next year than Campbell would likely not have to learn a new system. And if it's Cowher then he would conceivably be in that drop-back system that many (yourself included I believe) think he is best suited for.

We've kept the same defensive scheme in place 5 years and, with one exception, our defense has been very good for those 5 years. The way i see it, we committed to the WCO and we need to keep it here a minimum of 5 years. Lets keep the system in place and gradually adjust our personnel to suit that system over the course of that timeframe.

Constantly changing systems is not good on any level.

I hope that Peter King's source is correct about Snyder being unwilling to move next year's 1st.

Ultimately I don't think this will end up happening for a few reasons:

There's a very good chance our offense will be significantly better in year 2 for Campbell, Zorn, and a handful of young ball-catchers. Plus the O-line will be in better shape. Snyder knows this. It's not like sticking with the current QB situation is a big roll of the dice. It's safe and prudent, and allows us to fix other holes and maintain continuity and growth with a solid QB and system.

Snyder should not go after Sanchez by shipping off multiple picks and/or players and stick with Campbell instead because regardless of the outcome of Zorn/Campbell in '09, Snyder benefits. We all know as Campbell goes, so does Zorn, and vice versa. If they flop this season, Snyder can dump them both, and will have an opportunity at the outstanding 2010 QB draft class. Not to mention the head coaches that'll be available - Holmgren, Cowher, Gruden, Shanahan, Billick, etc. He would be giddy about the splash he could make.

And if Zorn and Campbell take a big step forward, Snyder looks great for being patient and allowing continuity to play it's course.

You sure about that? The offensive line has been on shaky ground for a couple of years now. Every year the front office ignores the offensive line the closer we are to absolute Armageddon up front. Snyder thinks the O-line will be in better shape, that's why he's willing to enter the Sanchez Sweepstakes.

You're right though, I don't think it'll happen anyway. Sanchez could be gone by pick #2. And Seattle might not want to pass him up at #4. You're also correct that this is Go Time for Zorn and Campbell. If they don't light it up and make a deep run into the playoffs, that will be the perfect opportunity for Snyder to wash his hands of the both of them.

When he gets released from Seattle this offseason, Hasselbeck will be our stop-gap until Colt is ready to take the reigns (pun intended). :smashfrea

I'd be shocked if Hasslebak got released...but I wouldn't be mad if this scenario happened!

As long as we got trade value for JC...2nd round pick anyone?

Soups not playing in a system he was brought in either. Kurt Warner has put the age thing to rest. He sure does make a lot of money for someone that should be looking for a job.

Todd Collins is in no way Kurt Warner period.