Mark Sanchez at 13th?


Ruhskins
04-17-2009, 06:13 PM
People like me point out that QB is ONE of our problems and we're labeled as claiming its the ONLY problem? i dont think ANYONE here has ever claimed that he is the "only" problem.

QB is a position of concern in 2009, and likely (for one reason or another) to be a position of extreme need in 2010. It needs to be evaluated and prioritized along with OL, DE, LB, WR, RB and nickleback. The evaluation needs to compare the specific players we have with the specific players we are able to acquire, what players will be available next year, the risks involved if an draftee doesnt work out, the risks involved in "doing nothing" to address each position, and so on.

The bottom line question is this - What actions can we take to have the best long-term effect on the franchise?

I have a simple answer for this, and I dare you to counter my point without: writing a long ass paragraph, take the approach that your opinion is fact, and mention "sources" without actually mentioning them.

Right now there is talk of the team getting Mark Sanchez, well this is how we would get Mark Sanchez and what it would result:

Mark Sanchez = Trading Up = Giving up #13 in '09, a later round pick '09, and/or round pick in '10. Giving up draft picks in '09, including the #13, and possibly a pick in '10 = no Michael Oher or Brian Orakpo, no possibility of trading down, and going into '10 down one draft pick.

So by you telling me that we need Mark Sanchez to replace Jason Campbell, you are telling me that you are willing to risk losing all of these draft picks for the sake of addressing the "QB" position, which would in turn result in not being able to address the DE, LB, RT, and any other position of need. If we are not addressing these other position, then logic tells me that you think Jason Campbell is the only problem.

Oh and are you by any chance Dan Snyder?

drew54
04-17-2009, 06:32 PM
Oh and are you by any chance Dan Snyder?

If you are Dan , can you explain why you hate us.

CRedskinsRule
04-17-2009, 06:33 PM
Let's not get carried away. He may or may not be behind Bradford and McCoy but no way is he behind Tebow.

really? Bradford and Tebow both have Heisman's, Tebow had 2 successive very good/outstanding years. Sanchez did what? Led a team that is perennially a powerhouse. I swear my mind is stuck on one argument. USC built the team, then plugged Sanchez in. Exactly what I want the Redskins to do.

CRedskinsRule
04-17-2009, 06:36 PM
I can't recall a Redskins draft that I wanted to be over and done with more than this one.

So true, although I was really anxious for the ST draft, because I wanted to see who we got, ST/KWII. But that was from an excitement point of view. This year I just want to see it and see that we don't do something idiotic (like move up for Sanchez)

GMScud
04-17-2009, 06:37 PM
If we draft Sanchez I might have to take a step back from being a Skins fan for a while. That's how ticked I will be, I'll have one foot out the door.

I agree. I mean, I always be a fan, but I just wonder how many times Danny and Co have to fall flat on their face before they realize their methods are broken. I wonder if the fact that McDaniels didn't want Campbell has Danny so intent on finding his replacement. That impulsive little idiot will never get it. I'm convinced. We have so many holes, and QB is not one of them. We already know we have a solid QB. Why mortgage the future (and the present given our needs)? Sanchez could just as easily be Joey Harrington, Alex Smith, or Heath Shuler as he could be Matt Ryan.

It's frustrating that the team I've loved my whole life is run by one of the youngest owners in the league who is intent on repeating the same behavior over and over and expecting different results. Danny isn't going anywhere for a long, long time. If he doesn't change his ways, I guess I better get used to the fact that I won't see consistent success for the rest of my life, literally.

How can such a sharp business man be so friggin dumb? He covets all these big names, and I'm sure he covets the success of the premier franchises these days (NE, Pitt, etc). So why on earth can't he take a page from their book? Build from the inside out, Napoleon.

wilsowilso
04-17-2009, 06:39 PM
really? Bradford and Tebow both have Heisman's, Tebow had 2 successive very good/outstanding years. Sanchez did what? Led a team that is perennially a powerhouse. I swear my mind is stuck on one argument. USC built the team, then plugged Sanchez in. Exactly what I want the Redskins to do.

Winning the Heisman trophy has little to no value as an indicator for NFL success as a quarterback.

There have been Heisman trophy winning quarterbacks that went undrafted.

I doubt there is a single GM in the NFL that takes Tebow over Sanchez if Tebow had declared for this draft.

I don't want Sanchez by the way, but he has what the NFL is looking for with regards to him deserving to be a top ten pick.

Son Of Man
04-17-2009, 06:42 PM
Okay, new question: should the Giants trade multiple first round picks to get up and land Sanchez? Their franchise QB isn't really even as good as Campbell is here right now. Plus, they seem to be a team that has most parts in place, at least talking OL (although they have depth issues).

Where is the threshold for a team to stop trying to improve their QB situation?

I only defer this question to you since you clearly consider yourself the authority on what it takes for a QB to be "great".

Eli is better than JC.

drew54
04-17-2009, 06:43 PM
Sanchez could just as easily be Joey Harrington, Alex Smith, or Heath Shuler as he could be Matt Ryan.

Didn't we end up trading back for Ramsey after we failed to trade up for Joey Harrington. Anyone else remember Dan talking outside of the War Room on draft day that year.

GTripp0012
04-17-2009, 06:44 PM
Eli is better than JC.I think you could make that argument, although he won a SB doing exactly what BHA is critiquing Campbell for, but you'd have to admit they are on exactly the same tier.

But the point was, the Giants have yet to extend his contract. Should they be looking to trade up and get Sanchez? I'm wondering, because based on the value system that BHA and others have shown, the answer would seem like a resounding yes. But I don't hear any Giants fans or team reporters even suggesting this as a remote possibility.

Son Of Man
04-17-2009, 06:49 PM
really? Bradford and Tebow both have Heisman's, Tebow had 2 successive very good/outstanding years. Sanchez did what? Led a team that is perennially a powerhouse. I swear my mind is stuck on one argument. USC built the team, then plugged Sanchez in. Exactly what I want the Redskins to do.

Is that why Tebow was projected as a 4th round pick...at H-Back?

Eric Crouch won a Heisman.

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