Mark Sanchez at 13th?


Dirtbag59
04-17-2009, 04:51 PM
So the real question is this. When we send Seattle or Kansas city this years first and next years first and draft Mr. USC will you support Sanchez?

53Fan
04-17-2009, 04:57 PM
Bottom line here is folks, a new QB no matter who he is isn't going to fix the other issues we have. You build a team from the inside out. Build up the lines and build a strong supporting cast and you can put a decent QB back there and get quality production and win games. Put a good QB behind a bad line with no help around him, and he's going to play to the level of the rest of the offense, simple as that.

It amazes me that some still can't see the writing on the wall. Last year through the first 8 games JC was getting the protection he needed and the rest of the offense was playing well, and what do you know JC was playing well. In the final 8 games he was under pressure and the rest of the offense crumbled around him, and surprise surprise he struggled. It doesn't get any more obvious to me what the issues were.

If we draft Sanchez I might have to take a step back from being a Skins fan for a while. That's how ticked I will be, I'll have one foot out the door.
That's EXACTLY how I feel. I would never abandon the Redskins completely, but to say my interest in the coming season would wane, would be putting it mildly. It's hard to pull for an idiot. (D.S.)

Chico23231
04-17-2009, 04:59 PM
Sanchez isnt that good, I never saw a game or hightlight where he impressed me (UVA game does not count). He is, for sure, not close to be ready to be under center at least for 2-3 more years in the NFL. Pete Carrol begged him to come back because he was not ready. We have been building with Jason and I feel we could be a good O-Linemen away from a serious playoff run. If Jason fails this year, there are better QBs, NFL ready QBs, coming out next year. Or who knows, Colt did show a little bit last year, maybe he will be ready to lead next year. The draft is such a crap shoot, and I will support who ever we get, but the best direction for this draft is to get a beast O-lineman and OLB.

Slingin Sammy 33
04-17-2009, 05:00 PM
First of all, during the first half of the season, JC wasn't doing all that great. He was still just averaging 1 TD per game. The only thing JC wasnt doing was throwing picks. I'd take a QB who throws 3 TDs and 2 INTs per game over a guy who doesnt make mistakes any day of the week - TDs = 7Points. INTs just mean you turn the ball over - they dont always result in points and probably wouldnt result in too many TDs with this defense.The most important stat in determining W-L in the NFL is turnover ratio. I'll take an efficient QB over a gunslinger every day of the week and twice on Sunday. As long as the offense is putting up TDs, last I checked a Rush TD was scored the same as a pass TD. INTs aren't "just" a turnover. They are a momentum swing and a potential point change of 10 to 14 points in many cases.

The O-line declined in the 2nd half of the year, but barring the game where our backup center was playing Left Tackle and blocking one of the best pass rushers in the league, it was still one of the better O-lines in the league (and by that i mean top 16).Our OL was statistically performing in the bottom third of the league the second half of the season. Kind of hard to step into a pocket when it is collapsing in your face.

2) HAVE a GREAT QB so you can get by with a GOOD supporting cast.Did you check out Peyton Manning's numbers early in the season while Indy was having OL issues?

IMO its easier to get one GREAT player than it is to get 21 others.What if you miss on Sanchez and he isn't great? Then we're in a world of doo-doo as I mentioned in an earlier post.

CRedskinsRule
04-17-2009, 05:02 PM
So the real question is this. When we send Seattle or Kansas city this years first and next years first and draft Mr. USC will you support Sanchez?

Of course some would, but then they would bust the FO's chops for it later if he fails to produce. Please let this be a smoke screen, or even just due diligence.

53Fan
04-17-2009, 05:05 PM
BHA. Sometimes a wise man just has to realize his folly and stop pursuing it.

SmootSmack
04-17-2009, 05:06 PM
Bottom line here is folks, a new QB no matter who he is isn't going to fix the other issues we have. You build a team from the inside out. Build up the lines and build a strong supporting cast and you can put a decent QB back there and get quality production and win games. Put a good QB behind a bad line with no help around him, and he's going to play to the level of the rest of the offense, simple as that.

Super Bowl Winning QB Mark Rypien agrees

If we draft Sanchez I might have to take a step back from being a Skins fan for a while. That's how ticked I will be, I'll have one foot out the door.

Great...then what fan site would I go to? I wouldn't be so down if they drafted him at 13. It's trading up to get him that would concern me.

Slingin Sammy 33
04-17-2009, 05:07 PM
Please let this be a smoke screen, or even just due diligence.Agreed 100%, one glimmer of hope, we did bring in J. Russell an nothing happened there.

CRedskinsRule
04-17-2009, 05:10 PM
BHA, do you think Sanchez will be "Franchise" great, or great because he is the best in this draft?
Another way to phrase it, If Sanchez had taken Carrol's supposed advice and stayed in till next year, would you be advocating wait for him next year, or get the next best one after Stafford?
I think you want a Superstar qb so bad, and you know in your heart JC isn't it, that you are willing to take just about any qb out there and proclaim him the next "Franchise".

My answers to my questions:
Sanchez is not a sure hit franchise player.
If he came out next year he might be the 4th best behind Tebow and others.

Further, he knows that, and knows that this year he can get top 10 money and like a smart business man, he is catching the cash now.

Dirtbag59
04-17-2009, 05:26 PM
Great...then what fan site would I go to? I wouldn't be so down if they drafted him at 13. It's trading up to get him that would concern me.

Y Hello Der :)

Agreed 100%, one glimmer of hope, we did bring in J. Russell an nothing happened there.

Yeah but Snyder didn't love Russell (aka Shaq jr without the flair). Apparently with Sanchez (who seems to be the anti-Leinart in that he doesn't let partying get in the way of football) Snyder has found his guy. Honestly I'm kind of intrigued, especially with that quick release and mobility thats part of his pocket awareness, but at the same time I would love to see the team get a starting quality Tackle.

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