Mark Sanchez at 13th?

Because of the people in here who think Jason Campbell is the ONLY problem with the Redskins and the Cult of Colt.

Colt is the cult of personality too. Have you ever seen him throw? Pretty darn accurate. Ever seen Jason throw? Not accurate.

Colt is the cult of personality too. Have you ever seen him throw? Pretty darn accurate. Ever seen Jason throw? Not accurate.


Really???? Then why did Colt go in the 6th round?? Just because he looked accurate against 2nd and 3rd rate talent doenst mean he is Joe Montana reincarnated.

They say the NFL is a copy kat league, maybe Vinny and Dan think with Mark Sanchez at QB he could lead us in to the playoffs. Much like Ryan and Flacco did for their teams. the problem is we dont have the Ravens great defense and we play in the NFC East. No way we win more than 6 games with a rookie QB. We can win with a defense that can force turnovers and get 3 and outs. So if the best tackles are not there at 13th pick and we cant trade down then use it on the best LB or DE . If we don't think the LB OR DE is worthy than draft the best RB(WELLS or Moreno). We need to keep our picks and stop trading them away every year for washed up veteran players ( Jason Taylor, Pete Kendal). The front office panic when Daniels went down so we gave up a 2nd to Miami. We have know confidence in our back up players apparently, with D.Evans and C. Wilson who were waiting for their chance to start. Well we know how that deal worked out. The 2008 draft was the most picks we have had in many years. All of our draft picks made the roster except the punter. I thought we were learning to build through the draft. What do you guys think?


Flacco didnt lead his team anywhere the defense carried that team and the Falcons run game is what got them to the playoffs and copycat is spelled with a C just for future reference

Smokescreen, and it's got Kiper fooled too. Good for the FO, maybe get some better value to trade down at # 13 or force someone elses hand to leave us a better player at # 13.

However, if I'm wrong and they move up or draft Sanchez at # 13, mine will be another TV in the shop.

Many people are like this, I don't understand why such hatred for Campbell. I guess these people didn't see wideouts dropping good passes or our old offensive linemen getting bulldozed during the second half of the season. I wish people would write long threads on why we should draft a stud o-lineman instead of all of this anti-Campbell stuff. It reminds me when Reed Doughty became Redskins enemy #1 and people stopped talking about him when he got hurt.

Its not "hate" of Campbell. He has his own sets of strenghts and weaknesses, just like any other QB. The problem is he doesnt get to use his natural strenghts in the WCO and his weaknesses are magnified 100 times. Bringing on Zorn and his WCO and expecting it to work with Campbell was a horrible decision on the FOs part... which brings me to the issue here"

Alot of you seem to look at this issue from the perspective of what SHOULD be done or makes sense to you - but it completely ignores the reality that our owner is Daniel Snyder and our GM is vinny Cerrato. Im looking at the issue of what we should do given the fact that our owner is DS and GM is VC.

About WRs... yes, his WRs dropped some balls, but i cant even count the number of times Campbell grossly over or under threw a wide open receiver for a short catch. Many times, our receivers and TEs cant get YAC because Campbell cant hit them in stride. While Campbell has deadly accuracy on his deep ball, hes horribly erratic on the short and medium-throws.

Anyway, as you said, if we keep Campbell as our QB in 2009, we absolutely need to give him O-line help. Campbell holds on to the ball way to long for this system and he absolutely needs more time. He won't be successful without a top5 O-line. If we don't give him serious O-line help, were ensuring his failure. (on the flip side, if we select a QB who makes quicker decisions and is more accurate on the short throws, allowing our receivers more completions and YAC, we're fine with the line we have and can focus on upgrading it coming seasons.)

The funniest, most ironic thing is the lack of patience and foresight you kill the front office of is the justification for mortgaging the future because you're unhappy with consistent progress.

I'm not necessarily unhappy with consistent progress, but I understand and accept the fact that our Owner isnt. This league, and to some extent, the world we live in, is obsessed with instant gratification. You don't think a 500 season followed by a 9-7 season (and no playoff wins) with Campbell is enough for Snyder to fire Zorn - in a year when Bill Cowher, Mike Shanahan, John Gruden and Mike Holmgreen are available, then you're just not being realistic.

Zorn and Campbell would have to do EXTREMELY well for Snyder to resist the urge to make one of those guys the highest paid coaches in the history of football. For Campbell, he's got to go to the Pro-bowl. For Zorn, i dont think he keeps his job (if Campbell is QB) with anything less than 11-5 or multiple playoff victories.

Smokescreen, and it's got Kiper fooled too. Good for the FO, maybe get some better value to trade down at # 13 or force someone elses hand to leave us a better player at # 13.

However, if I'm wrong and they move up or draft Sanchez at # 13, mine will be another TV in the shop.

I'm praying this is true...

Because of the people in here who think Jason Campbell is the ONLY problem with the Redskins and the Cult of Colt.
People like me point out that QB is ONE of our problems and we're labeled as claiming its the ONLY problem? i dont think ANYONE here has ever claimed that he is the "only" problem.

QB is a position of concern in 2009, and likely (for one reason or another) to be a position of extreme need in 2010. It needs to be evaluated and prioritized along with OL, DE, LB, WR, RB and nickleback. The evaluation needs to compare the specific players we have with the specific players we are able to acquire, what players will be available next year, the risks involved if an draftee doesnt work out, the risks involved in "doing nothing" to address each position, and so on.

The bottom line question is this - What actions can we take to have the best long-term effect on the franchise?

Alot of you seem to look at this issue from the perspective of what SHOULD be done or makes sense to you - but it completely ignores the reality that our owner is Daniel Snyder and our GM is vinny Cerrato. Im looking at the issue of what we should do given the fact that our owner is DS and GM is VC. What is best for the team is what SHOULD be done, regardless of who the onwer and GM are. I think the more appropriate phrase would be; Will DS & VC do what should be done in the best interest of the Redskins.

About WRs... yes, his WRs dropped some balls, but i cant even count the number of times Campbell grossly over or under threw a wide open receiver for a short catch. Many times, our receivers and TEs cant get YAC because Campbell cant hit them in stride. While Campbell has deadly accuracy on his deep ball, hes horribly erratic on the short and medium-throws.Your statement is completely wrong. You can't count the number of times JC over or under-threw wide open receivers on a mid-short throw, because there just weren't many. If JC is inaccurate anywhere it's his deep ball, those he misses on more than his short/mid-range throws.

.....Campbell holds on to the ball way to long for this system and he absolutely needs more time....(on the flip side, if we select a QB who makes quicker decisions and is more accurate on the short throws, allowing our receivers more completions and YAC, we're fine with the line we have and can focus on upgrading it coming seasons.)Haven't we heard this before? You put a rookie QB who had one successful season behing our current O-line (even with a healthy Thomas) and we will struggle far worse than JC did in the second half of 2008.

Unless you're ready to blow the whole thing up and start from scratch the Sanchez thing is complete stupidity. You bring a rookie QB into the mix and start him, you set the franchise back 2-3 years. IMO we are far from a position where the whole team needs to be blown up and rebuilt.

Let's say for the sake of argument we draft Sanchez at # 13. We still have immediate needs at OT, LDE & OLB which we will probably not fill, if lucky we'll fill one with our 3rd rounder. Portis isn't getting any younger, Samuels, Thomas and Rabach will all be the wrong side of 33 by Sept. 2010, and Samuels & Thomas are having injuries. Fletch isn't getting any younger, What do we do with Rogers in a contract year next year? Moss isn't getting any younger either, and his main weapon is his speed. What if one of the two young WRs doesn't develop? Now going into the 2010 season we have holes at OTx2, OLBx2, LDE, C, WR, possbily RB, possibly CB. Now we'll likely have a BAD OL and a 2nd year QB, not a good mix. But at least we'll have high draft picks because if we replace JC with Sanchez we're looking at no better than 6-10.

How about we address our OT, LDE, OLB situation this year with a trade down and fill two of those holes. Let's see if JC continues his development along the lines of what Hasslebeck did in the second year with Zorn (Pro Bowl level). He does and we re-sign him, he doesn't then we look for help next off-season.

People like me point out that QB is ONE of our problems and we're labeled as claiming its the ONLY problem? i dont think ANYONE here has ever claimed that he is the "only" problem.

QB is a position of concern in 2009, and likely (for one reason or another) to be a position of extreme need in 2010. It needs to be evaluated and prioritized along with OL, DE, LB, WR, RB and nickleback. The evaluation needs to compare the specific players we have with the specific players we are able to acquire, what players will be available next year, the risks involved if an draftee doesnt work out, the risks involved in "doing nothing" to address each position, and so on.

The bottom line question is this - What actions can we take to have the best long-term effect on the franchise?

It doesn't matter who is playing QB if we cannot protect him. We may have a pretty good QB right now and not know it because like a prostitute he is always on his back.

Case and point 2 seasons ago Tom Brady looked like the best QB in history because he never got touched and had all damn day to throw the ball in every game. In the Superbowl however, he was under constant pressure. Although, he was still considered a good QB, he just did not look the same in that game.

It is absolutley amazing at how good a great Oline can make the skill position players look, and oddly the skins have neglected the trenches for nearly a decade. Yet we are so quick to give up on a QB that was drafted in the first round and has shown considerable progress.

IMHO Jay Cutler, Mark Sanchez, Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, Drew Brees, and anyone else you want to name would suck behind our line too.