Mark Sanchez at 13th?

I actually heard Portis say something smart on ESPN and it got me thinking. When he was asked whether he thought Campbell could be a franchise QB he said yes. He basically said he had the size and talent. He also said if you take away Santana Moss you'd probably have a hard time naming the Skins receivers over the past 5 years. He's right. All of Campbells stats and QB ratings have improved every year he has played. And he has done this with S**T for wide receivers, with the exception of Moss, a constantly changing offensive system, and an aging o-line that cannot stay healthy. The more I think about it, the more I think it would be a big mistake to give up on Jason Campbell right now.

Ouch. I wonder how Antwaan Randle El would react to those comments?

For some reason I don't put much stock into Clinton Portis as a talent evaluator.

I usually don't put much stock in anything Portis says but in this case he's right. Nothing against ARE but he belongs in the slot where he would flourish. A second receiver he's not. You have to admit though, Portis was right on Sean Taylor. :)

I don't understand why people are so hell bent on getting a QB that's going to throw for 400 yds every game. Honestly, with the defense we had last year, we just needed an offense that can keep us one step ahead and allow us to control the clock when we have the lead. If you look at the elite defenses of last year (Titans, Ravens), their QBs were not setting passing records or anything like that. The easiest thing to do for our team is to get the o-line to protect Campbell and use the offense as a compliment to the defense.

If the team (or should I say, Snyder) wants to have an offense that racks up the yards and is an offense juggernaut, then the defense must be sacrificed. If you look at teams like Indy, Arizona, and New Orleans, who had passing offenses with huge numbers, well those teams usually don't have good defense. Not everyone can be like the New England Patriots (potent offense, with a top notch defense of old guys that won't get hurt) and I don't understand why Snyder (or anyone here) is hell bent on getting a Jay Cutler or another QB that's going to rack up the yards (at the expense of other areas which have typically have been the strength of our team....defense and running game).

I actually heard Portis say something smart on ESPN and it got me thinking. When he was asked whether he thought Campbell could be a franchise QB he said yes. He basically said he had the size and talent. He also said if you take away Santana Moss you'd probably have a hard time naming the Skins receivers over the past 5 years. He's right. All of Campbells stats and QB ratings have improved every year he has played. And he has done this with S**T for wide receivers, with the exception of Moss, a constantly changing offensive system, and an aging o-line that cannot stay healthy. The more I think about it, the more I think it would be a big mistake to give up on Jason Campbell right now.

I think that Portis and 53Fan are right on. Randle El is not a true #2. Thrash, a great special teamer, contributes very little to the passing game. Other wideouts in the last couple of years have been quite forgettable.

Between 2007 and 2008 JC changed from a turnover machine into a turnover-stingy QB. That already leaves us better off than quite a few qb's would.

The next step for him is to get the ball down field more so that his yards per attempt is above 7.0. This is his logical next progression as a QB and my guess is that he is working on this as we speak. He'll need help in this, as he'll need better protection than he has gotten and he'll need Thomas and Kelly to step up their games.

However, if he does emerge this year as a turnover-stingy QB with a YPA over 7.0, that's a true NFL QB. That's a keeper.

My apologies guys. My report about Zorn pushing hard for Sanchez turns out to be really misleading. Yes, he's at the forefront of all the meetings with Sanchez but he's not pushing hard for him, not exactly.

I heard the report wrong. Zorn was asked "If not Campbell, then who would you want as your QB?" and that's where is strong interest in Sanchez comes in. Without that first part of the quote it's completely different. Sorry guys, bad reporting on my part there.

My apologies guys. My report about Zorn pushing hard for Sanchez turns out to be really misleading. Yes, he's at the forefront of all the meetings with Sanchez but he's not pushing hard for him, not exactly.

I heard the report wrong. Zorn was asked "If not Campbell, then who would you want as your QB?" and that's where is strong interest in Sanchez comes in. Without that first part of the quote it's completely different. Sorry guys, bad reporting on my part there.

Whew! Thanks for the update SS.

(Suggested Thread Title) Will the Real Jason Campbell Fans Please Stand Up


So I don't have ten replies and can't start a thread, but is there any way the people who really believe in Jason Campbell as the future of the franchise can get together and somehow protest a potential Sanchez trade/show JC our support? I'm not really good with website design but would be happy to produce content. The way the front office is handling this situation is absurd, and before we piss away two more draft picks, perhaps we can rally broad fan opposition to this as well as show Jason Campbell that Snyder may not believe in him, but we do. Seems like a winner on both fronts.

Considering that fan reaction kill Fassel, couldn't it work?

I hear you, but how long should you have to wait in this league? Falcons fans didn't have to wait as long as we have. At some point JC will have to make things happen with what he has around him. Other QBs have done more with less. We can't wait for perfect surroundings for JC before he shows us something more than we've seen.

I'm not saying dump Campbell in favor of Sanchez, but this year has to be put up or shut up. No more excuses.
Ask San Diego fans if they waited long enough on Brees. Did we wait long enough on Trent Green? It's been 2.5 years starting, what exactly did you expect? It's called DEVELOPING YOUR PLAYERS. We all cry and whine about wasted draft picks, hell what do you think you're going to get with all of those picks, Pro Bowl ready players every time?

We won 8 games last year and had the defense not crapped away the St. Louis, Cincy and SF games we would have been in the playoffs. It truly amazes me that some of you guys act like Campbell was out there losing games for us left and right.

Seriously, you can't compare all rookie QB to the Falcons or Ravens last year, those were historical anomalies. In both cases, they were game managers supported by a great running game (Atlanta) and a great defense (Baltimore). Please don't be fooled into believing they were the reason they were playoff teams.

My apologies guys. My report about Zorn pushing hard for Sanchez turns out to be really misleading. Yes, he's at the forefront of all the meetings with Sanchez but he's not pushing hard for him, not exactly.

I heard the report wrong. Zorn was asked "If not Campbell, then who would you want as your QB?" and that's where is strong interest in Sanchez comes in. Without that first part of the quote it's completely different. Sorry guys, bad reporting on my part there.

How Florio-esque of you. LOL. :)

It's all good man.