freddyg12
04-15-2009, 02:03 PM
It would be highway robbery to get picks #20 and #33 for 13, let alone a conditional pick. The bad thing about this Sanchez stuff is that absent the prospect of drafting the guy I would have been hoping he would fall to #13 so that the Redskins would be in better position to trade back. Now I have to hope that someone in the top 8 or so picks him (picks #13 and #80 take the Skins to pick #8 or #9 if they want to jump up for Sanchez).
On the surface I'd agree w/you, but if you really want a player, especially a QB, on draft day you've got to do whatever you can to move up. If the Skins have someone convinced that the player they want is at #13 & set the bar high for trades, then #20 & #33 for a QB isn't too much. We've seen recently that it took 2 1st rounders + for a franchise qb. I know a rookie isn't in the same boat, but if detroit likes him but doesn't want to take him at #1, trading w/us makes a lot of sense IMO, even if they give up 20 & 33.
I'm totally w/you on hoping he is there at 13, but only to increase our trade potential, not for us to draft him.
wilsowilso
04-15-2009, 02:32 PM
JLC is worthless if you are looking for inside info about the Redskins.
He has zero access, because he works for the Post. The long running fued between Dan Snyder and the Post is still ongoing and Snyder makes sure no one in the inner circle talks with JLC.
JLC is the writer of "Redskins Outsider."
freddyg12
04-15-2009, 02:49 PM
JLC is worthless if you are looking for inside info about the Redskins.
He has zero access, because he works for the Post. The long running fued between Dan Snyder and the Post is still ongoing and Snyder makes sure no one in the inner circle talks with JLC.
JLC is the writer of "Redskins Outsider."
I've found him to be reliable over the years, but I agree w/you that Snyder & co. have tried their hardest to limit access to the Post, and most media for that matter.
That said, now JLC is saying that "team & league sources" say we're interested in Sanchez;
Redskins Insider - Skins' Interest in Sanchez Still Strong (http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/2009-nfl-draft/skins-interest-in-sanchez-stil.html)
I pray that Sanchez is off the board before #13, or that this talk is just a smoke screen.
Dirtbag59
04-15-2009, 03:05 PM
Read this post from the insider:
Redskins Insider - Keep an Eye on Toler in 3rd Round of Draft (http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/2009-nfl-draft/greg-toler---a-name-to-watch-i.html)
What surpised me about it was there was no 'heads up' post like JLC usually does. Typically if he gets something its on the blog.
Come to think of it, after earlier saying I had to trust his reporting, the way he stated this might mean that he's only read the same stuff as us. If he has a source he'll state it as an "unamed source" or such.
As several on here have said, JLC might not have the sources inside redskins part anymore.
This would be a stupid move before the fifth round. Toler for starters is projected as an undrafted free agent by ESPN. Sure guys get drafted later and earlier then expected but not 4 rounds early.
I pray that Sanchez is off the board before #13, or that this talk is just a smoke screen.
Right now it's looking more like a cheech and chong smoke screen.
redsk1
04-15-2009, 03:16 PM
Yeah, JLC is blogging that the danny now is "smitten" w/Sanchez. This is unusual in that usually JLC has the scoop first. I started hearing the sanchez stuff from the warpath via Kiper. I don't recall JLC posting anything about sanchez, e.g. inside sources say Snyder & Vinny want to draft Sanchez.
Regardless, Kiper & now JLC are saying Sanchez. I'm sadly inclined to defer to their professionalism (which I respect in both); there must be some truth to the Danny's desire to draft Sanchez.
I'm hoping that some team in the top 10 nabs him, or that finally the FO actually fools some teams & pulls off a major trade to get more picks.
Yeah, there's probably some truth to it i would guess. Multiple people reporting this. I didn't hear what Kiper said, but if he reporting the Skins interest than there is some truth to it. Now, the draft has got to play out. It's almost like the DS dinner w/ AH's agent or the Cutler infactuation rumors...both were just rampant speculation..cough cough.
wilsowilso
04-15-2009, 03:16 PM
Let's put it this way. If Snyder and Cerrato decided that they want to go after Sanchez why would they tell a single other person about it?
They wouldn't.
It's just bad business revealing your hand like that. Snyder is a smart businessman.
As the de facto GM all these years not so much.
Dirtbag59
04-15-2009, 03:19 PM
Let's put it this way. If Snyder and Cerrato decided that they want to go after Sanchez why would they tell a single other person about it?
They wouldn't.
It's just bad business revealing your hand like that. Snyder is a smart businessman.
As the de facto GM all these years not so much.
Its a subconcious cry for help and negative feedback.
GTripp0012
04-15-2009, 03:20 PM
Let's put it this way. If Snyder and Cerrato decided that they want to go after Sanchez why would they tell a single other person about it?
They wouldn't.
It's just bad business revealing your hand like that. Snyder is a smart businessman.
As the de facto GM all these years not so much.True, it didn't come out until after the draft that Cerrato was locked on Jerod Mayo. It was reported prior, but taken with a grain of salt.
We may very well be interested in Sanchez, but history shows 1) he's unlikely to be there at 13 and 2) we aren't likely to go up and get him.
redsk1
04-15-2009, 03:20 PM
Let's put it this way. If Snyder and Cerrato decided that they want to go after Sanchez why would they tell a single other person about it?
They wouldn't.
It's just bad business revealing your hand like that. Snyder is a smart businessman. As the de facto GM all these years not so much.
I doubt it would be DS leaking this. It's most likely as innocent as JLC/Kiper talking to one of their FO friends. Kiper/JLC may have asked how the Sanchez workout went. The reply could have been that they really liked what they saw. They were really impressed.
Doesn't necessarily mean they will draft him. There is definately some interest on the skins side thought i would think.