Postgame: NY

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illdefined
09-19-2004, 06:20 PM
JW, unless you have a truly bad QB, Turnovers happen from losing the battle on the line sad to say.

arrington_QBkiller
09-19-2004, 06:34 PM
Where the hell has Sean Taylor been so far???

SKINSnCANES
09-19-2004, 06:35 PM
jones got injured this week appartnetly.

monk81
09-19-2004, 06:38 PM
Look, they were blitzing a lot, and stacking the run. You have to throw to releive the pressure. We failed to do so effectively, and then we turned the ball over SO MANY TIMES. We actually dominated on offense statistically in the second half, but the TOs ripped our hearts out. Without the TOs (and the drops) the O really didn't look that bad. The plays work, I think, but players have to execute. We beat ourselves.

I totally agree with you JWsleep.........in the second half we were moving the ball under Ramsey. It was the turnovers and wide open receivers not catching the ball that killed us. We abanded the running game for a while because we were so far behind. Wth 7 turnovers the Giants should've scored more so the defense hung in there and kept us in the game. Yes, disappointing games for Arrington and Bowen, but Phillip Daniels going down hurt us. We lost this game ourselves.....

monk81
09-19-2004, 06:39 PM
Why was Ray Brown playing and not Kenyatta Jones? And what's up with Lennie Friedman? How hard is it to snap the ball?


Yes, most curious....well Bugel must have known something............

SmootSmack
09-19-2004, 06:47 PM
Well Gibbs said Kenyatta had a "fat ankle" so Ray Brown had been working with the first team all week and the staff decided to just ahead and start Brown

JWsleep
09-19-2004, 06:50 PM
JW, unless you have a truly bad QB, Turnovers happen from losing the battle on the line sad to say.


Well, You can't blame Ramsey's throws on the o-line. They just were thrown in the wrong place, full stop. ANd the one to the corner of the endzone, he had some pressure maybe, but come on. He can't loft it up there.

As for Brunnell, the fumble came on a pressure, but the INT was on a screen. He had to get it over the lineman, and we had a good gain. How is that the O-line's fault?

And Portis? He doesn't fumble often. What's up with that???? One was diving over a pile and getting hit with a hemet, the other he just got stripped. Again, not sure why it's the o-line's fault either time.

I'm not saying that they played great, but I put the TOs squarely on our skill players. Brunell and Portis gave NY their points, and Ramsey sealed the game.

Defensewins
09-19-2004, 06:54 PM
Defense still looks good. Although M. Bowen was beaten deep, on a play he was the safety over the top. That is unexcusable. The receiver ran past him like he was standing still. This has always been his weakness.
Offense was making one mistake after another. Ramsey shows she still not ready to take over at QB. Two of the three interceptions were pathetic. He still holds the ball too long and takes to many sacks. He still makes the rookie mistakes, but he is no longer a rookie. For every good play he makes, he makes three bad one's. Brunnell might be have problems with the long ball, but he keeps the team in the games. Ramsey needs to improve before we hand him the starting position.
Our kick returner (i forget his name) had a good game.
Salavea and Griffen are playing great.

rickmmrr
09-19-2004, 07:06 PM
I don't know what I hated more.

The fumbles.
The interceptions.
The not caught clutch passes.
The penalties near the goal line.
The no pressure on the QB except when we blitz.

what a game.

monk81
09-19-2004, 07:12 PM
Well, You can't blame Ramsey's throws on the o-line. They just were thrown in the wrong place, full stop. ANd the one to the corner of the endzone, he had some pressure maybe, but come on. He can't loft it up there.

Ramsey could have thrown it out of bounds instead of throwing it under pressure and forcing something which leads to trouble.....................

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