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GTripp0012 03-31-2009, 02:19 AM I wonder if this team is destined to be a defensive team, kinda like the Ravens and Titans. I just feel that over the past 5-6 seasons the defense has been the strength.No one is destined to be anything, but some teams just can't evaluate talent on one side of the ball.
But for us, most of the established talent (sans Haynesworth) is on the offensive side. All we need to do is fix the major holes in the middle and on the outside, and we can have a good offense. It doesn't seem that hard, we've just failed at it so far.
hooskins 03-31-2009, 02:21 AM landry, st, champ, rodgers, etc have alll been talented
GTripp0012 03-31-2009, 02:27 AM But not pro bowl talented like Portis, Sellers, Moss (in his prime), Samuels, and Cooley.
More of a prospective type of talent on defense.
70Chip 03-31-2009, 03:34 AM If the defense stays at its current level and the offense improves to say 19 points a game, how many wins does that add up to. I bet that would be 10 or 11 wins. If the offense could get to 23 points per, I think you might win 12 games with last year's defense. I like a defense that doesn't give up more than 25 points in any game all year.
tryfuhl 03-31-2009, 09:45 AM Snyder owns about 5 million shares, Gates' Investment arm owns around 10 million shares. But it's Snyder's team managing it
Sorry to continue on the off-topic banter, but did he sell some in the past couple of years? Back in 05 he had 8 or 9pct and then bought more to take himself/Red Zone above Gates.
tryfuhl 03-31-2009, 09:50 AM Most people believe he is the sole owner of six flags was just putting out the info. I only quoted you for the six flags reference. Smootsmack beat me with the numbers.
I just didn't think he owned that little for years now, don't recall him selling any off, but might've missed it since I've moved out the area.
Son Of Man 03-31-2009, 10:32 AM But not pro bowl talented like Portis, Sellers, Moss (in his prime), Samuels, and Cooley.
More of a prospective type of talent on defense.
Sean Taylor *RIP*-5th overall pick (HOF potential), Laron Landry-6th overall pick (Pro-Bowl potential), Champ Bailey *traded*-7th overall pick (future HOF), London Fletcher (Pro-Bowl snubbed), DeAngelo Hall-7th overall pick (2 time Pro-Bowler), Carlos Rogers-9th overall pick (????), etc......
I think that's sure fire talent on defense, and I didn't even mention Haynesworth!
GTripp0012 03-31-2009, 03:35 PM Sean Taylor *RIP*-5th overall pick (HOF potential), Laron Landry-6th overall pick (Pro-Bowl potential), Champ Bailey *traded*-7th overall pick (future HOF), London Fletcher (Pro-Bowl snubbed), DeAngelo Hall-7th overall pick (2 time Pro-Bowler), Carlos Rogers-9th overall pick (????), etc......
I think that's sure fire talent on defense, and I didn't even mention Haynesworth!Right but you also included people who weren't on the team last year, and in one case, haven't been on the team in the last five years.
Rogers and Fletcher are established talent on defense, but not in the same way that the superstars of Portis, Cooley, Moss, and Samuels are respected by other teams. Then you have the young 25 year old potential of Hall, Blades, Landry, Montgomery, and Horton, who are a big part of our defense, but only if their best days are in fact in front of them.
The only point was that the established talent, the easily recognizable names, are on the offensive end for us, while the defense is very talented, but because it has fewer holes, more young talent, and less big names.
Monkeydad 04-01-2009, 11:26 AM Regarding Hall, I heard an interview on Sporting News Radio last week with him. He REALLY sounds like he has grown up and will be a solid player for us for years to come.
He made the comment, that IS true..."he's had to deal with more craziness in his career than anyone else he knows." He played with the dog-killed, then had a college coach who came in and failed miserably only to quit on the team...then he played under Al Davis.
A Raiders fan I work with keeps telling me I do not want a part of Hall on my team, but I really don't see it. Hall came in last year and changed the secondary for the better for 8 games. I see no signs of him wanting to give that work ethic up. He seems genuinely grateful to be a Redskin.
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