Per Vinny Cerrato, JC is our QB this season!

Generally you pass more when playing from behind. It didn't have anything to do with Zorn trying to open things up. He's not that dumb, with a broken down OL he wasn't trying to open things up just for the sake of showing off his offense. In the 2nd half of the season they were playing from behind more and hence throwing the ball more. Pretty simple.

^^ Can we go over that one more time?

Yawn. Shanahan is definitely less purist than Zorn. He(or maybe Jeremy Bates) has used more shotgun this year to suit Cutler's strengths(while still incorporating WCO short passing) and has always insisted his QBs sell a good play action fake. Zorn should do more of that for Campbell. just sayin'

Generally you pass more when playing from behind. It didn't have anything to do with Zorn trying to open things up. He's not that dumb, with a broken down OL he wasn't trying to open things up just for the sake of showing off his offense. In the 2nd half of the season they were playing from behind more and hence throwing the ball more. Pretty simple.

Plus, since the running game kinda went south, what else were we suppose to do? Punt?

Generally you pass more when playing from behind. It didn't have anything to do with Zorn trying to open things up. He's not that dumb, with a broken down OL he wasn't trying to open things up just for the sake of showing off his offense. In the 2nd half of the season they were playing from behind more and hence throwing the ball more. Pretty simple.

Not to be argumentative, but do you have stats to back that up? I dont remember us being from behind any more in the 2nd half than we were in the first. To the contrary, in the first half of the season i remember several games where we came from behind and won games in the 4th quarter.

And I also remember blowing alot of early leads in the 2nd half of the season - specifically, our defense seemed to get tired and cave in when we were trying to hold on to a narrow lead.

What you say makes a nice argument on paper, but i just dont remember the games that way. I think a good way to test your statement (and mine) would be to look at the first quarter of every game in 2008. Generally speaking, whats done in the first quarter would be a good representation of the teams basic philosophy. Unfortunately, i did a google search and couldnt find anywhere that had these stats. Any ideas?

Not to be argumentative, but do you have stats to back that up? I dont remember us being from behind any more in the 2nd half than we were in the first. To the contrary, in the first half of the season i remember several games where we came from behind and won games in the 4th quarter.

And I also remember blowing alot of early leads in the 2nd half of the season - specifically, our defense seemed to get tired and cave in when we were trying to hold on to a narrow lead.

What you say makes a nice argument on paper, but i just dont remember the games that way. I think a good way to test your statement (and mine) would be to look at the first quarter of every game in 2008. Generally speaking, whats done in the first quarter would be a good representation of the teams basic philosophy. Unfortunately, i did a google search and couldnt find anywhere that had these stats. Any ideas?

I don't know how you want to look at it or what stats you want but in the 8 wins JC averaged 30.375 attempts per game while in the 8 losses he averaged 32.875. Not a huge difference but...

It's interesting to note that Portis averaged 24.25 carries per game in the 8 wins, while only averaging 18.5 in the 8 losses. It's looking like JC didn't necessarily pass that much more in the losses, but the passing game was definitely more effective when the running game was clicking, which down the stretch as we know was pretty bad.

It's also interesting to note that in the 8 wins JC went over 30 attempts 5 times. In the 8 losses he also went over 30 attempts 5 times.

In short, much like most QBs give the guy a running game and he will be fine.

Yawn. Shanahan is definitely less purist than Zorn. He(or maybe Jeremy Bates) has used more shotgun this year to suit Cutler's strengths(while still incorporating WCO short passing) and has always insisted his QBs sell a good play action fake. Zorn should do more of that for Campbell. just sayin'

I agree.. he wasn't put into the position to make a lil something more out of what they had as he should've been. I mean you can only go shotgun, rollout, etc so much.. but it seemed like Zorn forgot that these things that buy you a couple extra seconds existed

Not to be argumentative, but do you have stats to back that up? I dont remember us being from behind any more in the 2nd half than we were in the first. To the contrary, in the first half of the season i remember several games where we came from behind and won games in the 4th quarter.

And I also remember blowing alot of early leads in the 2nd half of the season - specifically, our defense seemed to get tired and cave in when we were trying to hold on to a narrow lead.

What you say makes a nice argument on paper, but i just dont remember the games that way. I think a good way to test your statement (and mine) would be to look at the first quarter of every game in 2008. Generally speaking, whats done in the first quarter would be a good representation of the teams basic philosophy. Unfortunately, i did a google search and couldnt find anywhere that had these stats. Any ideas?

People can bend stats however they want to in order to suit their arguments. I have rewatched virtually every Redskins game (except for the Steelers and Ravens games) from '08 in the past month or so and trust me, the offense was NOT opened up at all. Campbell was still throwing shallow crosses and deep ins 80% of the time. Very rarely did he even look deep. While his attempts we up, that is not a direct indication to 'opening up the offense'. So back to my original question, which games did we 'open it up' and Campbell wasn't able to handle it?

BHA (or other Campbell detractors) one more Campbell question, can you pinpoint a specific loss and put that game on him? Understanding that no one player is ever responsible for a win or loss, but can you say in the X game if Campbell had done X then we would have won rather than lost?

BHA (or other Campbell detractors) one more Campbell question, can you pinpoint a specific loss and put that game on him? Understanding that no one player is ever responsible for a win or loss, but can you say in the X game if Campbell had done X then we would have won rather than lost?

I would think the argument for this would be that JC has been mostly a game manager. Game managers are usually not responsible for winning or losing the game. I think JC detractors would like to see him take more chances with the ball and make more plays and score more points even if on the flip side that comes with more mistakes and an occasional lost game that he is responsible for.

I am on the fence on JC...I am mostly a supporter of his...but at the same time he does need to make more plays next season.