Per Vinny Cerrato, JC is our QB this season!

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GTripp0012
03-22-2009, 09:29 PM
Given our offensive line is just average, and the fact it will take years for it to become elite, and given the fact we are running a WCO that doesnt require a powerful line, the most important thing for this offense to step forward is to have a QB who can make quick decisions, anticipate the receiver making his break, and get rid of the ball quickly - Jay Cutler can do that - look what he did in Denver behind that line (which is far worse than ours).LOL!

Oh man.

You know who had the best run-blocking line in the league last year by A(djusted)L(ine)Y(ards)?

Denver.

You know who's line gave up a sack on 3% of QB dropbacks, second best (4th adjusted for opponent quality) in the NFL?

Denver.

FOOTBALL OUTSIDERS: Football analysis and NFL stats for the Moneyball era - Authors of Pro Football Prospectus 2008 (http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/ol)

I don't disagree that people think the problem with our OL is over-publicized, and that we're closer to the median line than people think, and that it's not a huge reason for our offensive failures (compared to the receiving), but c'mon, you're obviously just making stuff up now.

53Fan
03-22-2009, 09:42 PM
:laughing- There seems to be a lot of FACT vs OPINION in this thread. I gotta go with the facts fellas. As far as making the Pro Bowl goes, the fact that Phillip Rivers had a higher QB rating, better comp.%, threw for over 4000 yards, and had a better TD/INT ratio than Cutler, but did not make it, should tell you all you need to know about that.

GMScud
03-22-2009, 11:08 PM
Why are you quoting an article we discussed days ago as if its new? As i already pointed out, Gibbs, Snyder and Cerrato all denied we would draft Campbell and declared that Ramsey was our QB of the future. Then they drafted Campbell. Just last year, Cerrato categorically denied we would pursue Jason Taylor. Hours later, Taylor was a Redskin. And to top it off, recent history suggests JLC is wrong far more often than he is right. Redskins park deliberatly leaks false information to him all the time.... nothing in the blog you quoted changes anything. The skins are not more or less likely to pursue Cutler. I would be shocked if they, along with alteast a dozen other teams, arent trying to do something to get Cutler to be honest. You cant beleive anything the front office says anymore than you should beleive anything a politician says when trying to get elected.

I agree we shouldn't believe everything Vinny says, nor do I think JLC is anything close to a great source these days. But care to explain how we're going to afford the trade should it happen? Money-wise it really doesn't seem possible.

GMScud
03-22-2009, 11:16 PM
We should re-name this thread "GTripp PWNEs BigHair"

MTK
03-22-2009, 11:20 PM
We should re-name this thread "GTripp PWNEs BigHair"

Seriously, good night Irene

GMScud
03-22-2009, 11:23 PM
Seriously, good night Irene

:thumb:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Unj_uU9tbs

cwsimps
03-22-2009, 11:40 PM
I still can not for the life of me figure out why people are so down on JC. He is a very good QB with one of the best personalities in the NFL. Cutler on the other hand has exhibited tantrums both on and off the field. As a die hard skins fan, I will take an emotionally sound player over a crybaby any day. Let me ask you this. If Cutler is our QB, and we lose a game to the Boys next year because of a late interception, and Cutler does his normal throwing of his helmet and yelling at other players on the team, will you be happy he is around? The only person who could make that mistake is VC, and if you agree with the cutler JC trade, then I hope the three of you befriend JJ and move to Dallas.

JASON CAMPBELL IS OUR FUTURE. Now shut the F*&^ UP and move on to real problems. Like our OL.

Ruhskins
03-23-2009, 02:24 AM
I still can not for the life of me figure out why people are so down on JC. He is a very good QB with one of the best personalities in the NFL. Cutler on the other hand has exhibited tantrums both on and off the field. As a die hard skins fan, I will take an emotionally sound player over a crybaby any day. Let me ask you this. If Cutler is our QB, and we lose a game to the Boys next year because of a late interception, and Cutler does his normal throwing of his helmet and yelling at other players on the team, will you be happy he is around? The only person who could make that mistake is VC, and if you agree with the cutler JC trade, then I hope the three of you befriend JJ and move to Dallas.

JASON CAMPBELL IS OUR FUTURE. Now shut the F*&^ UP and move on to real problems. Like our OL.

Apparently not, because for Skins fans character issues are only important if it refers to Albert Haynesworth and Deangelo Hall :doh:

Now to be serious, you make a good point and it would majorly suck to be a fan if this were to happen I would bet money that the same people that are calling for Campbell to leave, would be blasting the FO for trading for Cutler if your scenario were to come to fruition.

BigHairedAristocrat
03-23-2009, 12:46 PM
I agree we shouldn't believe everything Vinny says, nor do I think JLC is anything close to a great source these days. But care to explain how we're going to afford the trade should it happen? Money-wise it really doesn't seem possible.

Money in the Cutler-for-Campbell trade isnt an issue... Cutlers cap hit this year isnt that bad and cutting JC would save us 3M. The bigger issue is the ridculous rumors/speculation that players like Landry and Cooley would be involved in the trade... cutting or trading those guys is, as a practical matter, impossible. Honestly, i dont think the skins can possibly land Cutler, considering there are other teams who have more of a need at QB who also have more trade ammunition. So this is all really just a moot point, but its not like theres much else going on to talk about now... plus i like to take any chance i can get to point out that I dont beleive Campbell is ever going to be successful in this offensive system. ;)

MTK
03-23-2009, 12:54 PM
Money in the Cutler-for-Campbell trade isnt an issue... Cutlers cap hit this year isnt that bad and cutting JC would save us 3M. The bigger issue is the ridculous rumors/speculation that players like Landry and Cooley would be involved in the trade... cutting or trading those guys is, as a practical matter, impossible. Honestly, i dont think the skins can possibly land Cutler, considering there are other teams who have more of a need at QB who also have more trade ammunition. So this is all really just a moot point, but its not like theres much else going on to talk about now... plus i like to take any chance i can get to point out that I dont beleive Campbell is ever going to be successful in this offensive system. ;)

Believe me we'll all take great joy in rubbing your nose in it when he proves you wrong.

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