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The Goat 03-19-2009, 09:46 PM Why do you figure that?
It's probably the hardest considering the center typically makes the line calls and needs to make pre-snap reads of the D.
Hey ya'll, I found the Ross Tucker article referred to earlier where he gives order of importance when it comes to the o-line. Center is last (or least depending how you look at it)...
There's a nice pic of Samuels dominating btw.
SI.com - Writers - Ross Tucker: Ranking the five O-line positions - Friday April 4, 2008 11:53AM (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/writers/ross_tucker/04/02/oline.rankings/index.html)
The Goat 03-19-2009, 09:52 PM ... btw if you take Tucker's analysis to heart it's almost impossible to argue we can go into the season w/o upgrading RT. Also per his analysis if Rabach can pull his head out and stop making so many friggin mental errors he wouldn't be half the liability he was last year. Is it just me or did Rabach regress "mentally" in a big way? Wassup wid dat?
GTripp0012 03-19-2009, 10:44 PM ... btw if you take Tucker's analysis to heart it's almost impossible to argue we can go into the season w/o upgrading RT. Also per his analysis if Rabach can pull his head out and stop making so many friggin mental errors he wouldn't be half the liability he was last year. Is it just me or did Rabach regress "mentally" in a big way? Wassup wid dat?Tucker's analysis though, is dealing with the concepts of relative value and replacability, more than degree of difficulty (though he uses relative difficulty as a supporting reason for his argument).
He also makes the assumption at the beginning that run blocking is negigible, which is obviously a generalization, because you have to consider run blocking before you sign a player.
The point, as Tucker would make it, is that when we replace Casey Rabach, we shouldn't invest a considerable amount to do it unless we're getting a truly special player. He's saying "Don't give Jason Brown what the Rams did. That's spending stupid." (or Dock with Buffalo)
Likewise, spending the 13th pick on Mack is equally stupid if we don't think he's the best OLman available when we pick. It's just too easy to get a Center in the 3rd or 5th round to pass on a better lineman.
Tucker isn't saying "Rabach shouldn't be replaced because all centers are interchagable." He's just pointing out that if you spend a lot of money on a Center or LG (like Faneca), you're overestimating his effect on the entire line.
WaldSkins 03-19-2009, 11:19 PM Tucker's analysis though, is dealing with the concepts of relative value and replacability, more than degree of difficulty (though he uses relative difficulty as a supporting reason for his argument).
He also makes the assumption at the beginning that run blocking is negigible, which is obviously a generalization, because you have to consider run blocking before you sign a player.
The point, as Tucker would make it, is that when we replace Casey Rabach, we shouldn't invest a considerable amount to do it unless we're getting a truly special player. He's saying "Don't give Jason Brown what the Rams did. That's spending stupid." (or Dock with Buffalo)
Likewise, spending the 13th pick on Mack is equally stupid if we don't think he's the best OLman available when we pick. It's just too easy to get a Center in the 3rd or 5th round to pass on a better lineman.
Tucker isn't saying "Rabach shouldn't be replaced because all centers are interchagable." He's just pointing out that if you spend a lot of money on a Center or LG (like Faneca), you're overestimating his effect on the entire line.
1.) I think that selecting Duke Robinson who would still be high at 13 is still a better pick then Alex Mack.
2.) At thirteen im looking for a player to come in and have an immediate impact. If we drafted Mack or Robinson, they are probaly not going to start. I would say that the position where we could select someone to come in and start right away would be a DE/LB.
3.) Im on the Mack bandwagon as well but I just cant see selecting him with our first. I'm by no means saying that Rabach should stay, im just saying that it's something that can be addressed in the third.(Shipley, Caldwell,etc)
ibleedburgandy 03-20-2009, 01:35 AM I'd have to go with Maybin even though I like Cushing and Oher alot. Maybin can play DE and LB as where Cushing can only play LB (granted all three spots). I don't understand why everyone is picking Rey at 13 if he was already selected, and are we really talking about drafting a center with the 13th pick. Duke and Mack may be great players but not at 13! They don't even draft guards that high.
vallin21 03-20-2009, 01:54 AM I now think the pick is going on defense, and it's either Maybin or Cushing at 13. Even if Maualuga "was" available I think he would be a huge risk. He can only play 1 LB spot (MLB) and his speed (4.8) is questionable as well as his character. In the 3rd we should draft a C like Shipley and 1-2 years he can replace Rabach. Hopefully we can sign Shaffer to start at RT, but I think he might go to the Bears.
53Fan 03-20-2009, 01:57 AM I don't have a lot more to say about Mack. The information has been put forth and I'll leave it at that. But I will say this....the chances of a player like Maybin or Cushing being a bust at #13 are considerably more than Mack.
ibleedburgandy 03-20-2009, 12:05 PM I can understand saying a 1st rd DE has a strong chance to be a bust; however, the two safest positions to pick in the 1st are OT and LB. Cushing would be an awesome addition and would produce more than maybe a Maybin would, but IMO we have a much bigger hole to fill at DE than at LB.
Son Of Man 03-20-2009, 12:18 PM I can understand saying a 1st rd DE has a strong chance to be a bust; however, the two safest positions to pick in the 1st are OT and LB. Cushing would be an awesome addition and would produce more than maybe a Maybin would, but IMO we have a much bigger hole to fill at DE than at LB.
Cushing played a little DE for USC two years ago due to injuries on their line. Dude's a beast.
I still want Maualuga!!!
53Fan 03-20-2009, 12:35 PM Rey-Rey! The Latest: Rey Maualuga, Southern California, NFL Draft - CBSSports.com Football (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/559367)
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