Holt released by Rams

Picking up another WR at this point is a worthless move if JC cannot get him the ball. I say we stick with what we have and if our rookies and/or JC cannot get the job done then we address that next year. People say the skins don't have any type of plan but then turn around everytime so was is dropped by a team want us to run out and sign them.

Holt has like 10 tds the last 2 seasons. He used to average 10 a season. If he was super-cheap I say yeah, But we can't pay him alot we don't have alot and have bigger concerns. Give the rookies a chance they've shown some promise at times, And how many times did JC overthrow him. Anyway Zorn is still ahead of expectation so everyone coming back for a 2nd year with Zorn can only be good.

Picking up another WR at this point is a worthless move if JC cannot get him the ball. I say we stick with what we have and if our rookies and/or JC cannot get the job done then we address that next year. People say the skins don't have any type of plan but then turn around everytime so was is dropped by a team want us to run out and sign them.

You guys are funny. I don't mean to say lets pick up another WR and screw the OL. I was talking about picking up Holt and cutting Thrash. Thrash's whole career he never had a season where he got 1,000 yrds. Nor did he have like 10 TD's. So to cut him would be no harm done. Bringing in Holt would add a TD or two and the kids could learn from the best. I also never said lets bring in Holt, keep Thrash and not play Kelly and Thomas.

I could see Holt, Moss, and Kelly on the field. Maybe even a 4 set with Thomas. I probably would relegate ARE to 3rd or 4th WR spot.

Thrash's real value is on special teams. I'm not talking about returns. I'm talking about tackles, blocks, and the numerous times he's downed the ball deep in enemy territory. It doesn't make sense to bring Holt in to replace that, mainly because that's not what Holt does.

I would be more in favor of spending more for Holt and cutting Thrash if Holt could play special teams. A younger guy could add more to teams and we tend to forget how bad we sucked on teams last year. There are only so many roster spots. We can keep taking away from teams if we want to, but then don't complain when we can't get good field position because ST's suck.

I guess we were thinking the same thing around the same time Smoot.

Ok, for those of you who don't want Holt, may I ask the reason?

You can't say he's too old, we have Thrash on the team who is older.

You can't say he sucks because of one bad yr, due to team injuries. That would be like saying JC sucks simply cause the OL had issues.

You can't say he's another teams cast off cause I think most of us agree he was let go due to his high salary not due to his production last yr.

Most would agree he's an upgrade to our WR corpse so the only reason I can figure out is that you all just want to see what Kelly and Thomas bring to the table and so they will get experience. I'll agree the more playing time they get the better they will be, but I'm baffled as to why anyone would want to keep Thrash over Holt?

Everyone wanted a young WR out of the draft or most did. We got two. Everyone was satisfied thinking they were going to start right a way and be our CJ, T.O., or Randy Moss. How wrong we were. One didn't get in due to injuries the other played a limited role and only caught what....2 passes? I would count the third but is was brought back. So if you ask me this yr was a wash. If they get any significant playing time this yr I would count it as their Rookie yr playing. Especially for Kelly.

Having said that you guys are willing to bank that our two WR's from last yrs draft are going to come out and knock the socks off other teams? I have faith in the team but would always like an insurance policy in case for what ever reason Kelly has to go under the knife again, or Thomas still has not matured and not running good routes. If for any reason the two don't step up atleast I would feel more confortable going into the season with Moss, Holt, ARE instead of Moss, ARE, Thrash.

Thrash's real value is on special teams. I'm not talking about returns. I'm talking about tackles, blocks, and the numerous times he's downed the ball deep in enemy territory. It doesn't make sense to bring Holt in to replace that, mainly because that's not what Holt does.


I agree his true and only value is to be a gunner. but if I'm not mistaken I thought Horton and some one other then Thrash and Rock got most of the tackles on SP's? I think it was....ummm..Thomas. If other people can do it then let Thrash go.

Ok, for those of you who don't want Holt, may I ask the reason?

You can't say he's too old, we have Thrash on the team who is older.

You can't say he sucks because of one bad yr, due to team injuries. That would be like saying JC sucks simply cause the OL had issues.

You can't say he's another teams cast off cause I think most of us agree he was let go due to his high salary not due to his production last yr.

Most would agree he's an upgrade to our WR corpse so the only reason I can figure out is that you all just want to see what Kelly and Thomas bring to the table and so they will get experience. I'll agree the more playing time they get the better they will be, but I'm baffled as to why anyone would want to keep Thrash over Holt?

Everyone wanted a young WR out of the draft or most did. We got two. Everyone was satisfied thinking they were going to start right a way and be our CJ, T.O., or Randy Moss. How wrong we were. One didn't get in due to injuries the other played a limited role and only caught what....2 passes? I would count the third but is was brought back. So if you ask me this yr was a wash. If they get any significant playing time this yr I would count it as their Rookie yr playing. Especially for Kelly.

Having said that you guys are willing to bank that our two WR's from last yrs draft are going to come out and knock the socks off other teams? I have faith in the team but would always like an insurance policy in case for what ever reason Kelly has to go under the knife again, or Thomas still has not matured and not running good routes. If for any reason the two don't step up atleast I would feel more confortable going into the season with Moss, Holt, ARE instead of Moss, ARE, Thrash.
Really? In their first year?
15 actually.

Ok, for those of you who don't want Holt, may I ask the reason?

You can't say he's too old, we have Thrash on the team who is older.

I'm not against cutting Thrash. But I don't see the value of cutting and old veteran who's currently our 5th or 6th receiver/special teams ace to bring in another old veteran WR who's not going to want to do the little things Thrash does and would probably impede the development of Kelly and Thomas

You can't say he sucks because of one bad yr, due to team injuries. That would be like saying JC sucks simply cause the OL had issues.

I don't think he sucks at all

Most would agree he's an upgrade to our WR corpse so the only reason I can figure out is that you all just want to see what Kelly and Thomas bring to the table and so they will get experience. I'll agree the more playing time they get the better they will be, but I'm baffled as to why anyone would want to keep Thrash over Holt?

Corpse? Freudian slip there

Everyone wanted a young WR out of the draft or most did. We got two. Everyone was satisfied thinking they were going to start right a way and be our CJ, T.O., or Randy Moss. How wrong we were. One didn't get in due to injuries the other played a limited role and only caught what....2 passes? I would count the third but is was brought back. So if you ask me this yr was a wash. If they get any significant playing time this yr I would count it as their Rookie yr playing. Especially for Kelly.

Having said that you guys are willing to bank that our two WR's from last yrs draft are going to come out and knock the socks off other teams? I have faith in the team but would always like an insurance policy in case for what ever reason Kelly has to go under the knife again, or Thomas still has not matured and not running good routes. If for any reason the two don't step up atleast I would feel more confortable going into the season with Moss, Holt, ARE instead of Moss, ARE, Thrash.

I think Thomas had like 15 catches