Unknown draft prospects we should keep an eye on

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Nflnick11
03-11-2009, 12:36 PM
Who are your diamond in the rough, unheard of, or not talked about players we should be following right now who could be a great player or a great pickup for us, maybe you follow there team and say hey that guys pretty damn good..Examples chris horton, marques colston, clifton smith, etc. it can't be a player thats projected to be in the first round to mid second rounds...

A couple of my players to watch would be:
Joe Burnett CB/RS UCF (this guy was a pretty decent corner, but the scouts say that he probably wont be a corner in the NFL, which I disagree with, especially if his head coach said that joe's the best corner he's coached since asante samuel...plus even if he is a bad corner, he is a great returner, and the only one in the country to rank in the top 10 in both kick and punt returns)

Adam Leonard and Solomin Elimimin LB's Hawaii (they were both first team all WAC, with S.E. getting WAC defensive player of the year, but the scouts say he is to small for both LB positions [london fletcher ring a bell]...Leonard is labeled as the hardest hitting LB in the WAC for 2 straight years by numerous magazines, the scouts say that he's slow [4.7 fourty]...both aren't expected to get drafted, but if we bring them in as free agents, we have nothing to lose)

Lawrence Sidbury DE Richmond (he got all american first team for I-AA, the thing with him is that the scouts say that he only has one pass rush move and is a complete non factor in the run game and gets swalloed up by bigger tackles, but his motor and 3 sack game in the championship tells me he wants to win, plus Jared Allen was a fourth rounder out of Idaho State, and wasn't that highly rated as a DE)

Ramses Barden WR Cal Poly (He's 6'6 238, has good hands, the negatives on him are that he played against little competition and that he goes done usually on the first tackle...if thats it, im taking him in the 5th round)

Jason Williams LB Western Illinois (some say inside linebacker, some say outside linebacker, the only negative on him is that he's a small school linebacker...i say who cares?)

Johnathan Luigs (Arkansas), AQ Shipley (Penn State), Cecil newton (Tennessee State) C's (they all are great underrated centers, lewis could probably play guard too, Luigis and Shipley both won the Rimington Award, nations best center, and all three of them are 3 year starters, newton is a four year starter with NFL bloodlines, Shipley is also a great leader, and big enough to handle 3-4 NT's)

Jarrett Dillard WR Rice (he's 5'11, and isn't that fast, but he has tremendous hands and can catch a jump ball as if he were a 6'4 receiver, definetly could be one of the top 10 wr's 3 years from now)

Seth Olsen G Iowa (blocked for the nations best running back, shonn Greene, plus a 3 year starter)

Ladarius Webb CB Nicholls state (is a great I-AA corner, some say he could be a starting NB by the end of the season, came from the same college as kareem Moore, and ran one of the fastest fourties at the combine)

Luis Vasquez G, Rylan Reed T, Texas Tech (Vasquez improved his stock at the combine, by benching the most for any person with 39 reps, plus he's a great pass protector, the problem is, can he run block? Rylan Reed is a great tackle but scouts question if he can run block as well, plus he is 27 years old and isn't expected to be drafted, but as a free agent, and as a backup, i'd take a look at him)

chris Baker hampton DL (can play DE or DT, and dominate at hampton, but got kicked off penn state for weed, worth a look since we need a DE)

Brandon Williams DE Texas Tech (He is going to be a steal to who ever gets him, he led the Big 12 in sacks with 13, a few of those came against Jason Smith, Phil Loadholt, and Rylan Reed, the thing with him scouts say is that he's small, but i think he's about the same height and weight as osi umenyiora, so really?!?)

Devin Moore RB Wyoming (he's short but a great returner, and is a RB with speed, which we desperatley need, similar to darren sproles of san diego, moore runs a 4.35 fourty yard dash, which is better than moreno and anyother RB in this years slow class...)

Eknox
03-11-2009, 12:39 PM
It definatley wouldn't hurt to work these guy's out, But I have to ask .Does Vinnie really dig to find the diamond in the ruff players, or does he just listen to Mel Kiper Jr ?

Nflnick11
03-11-2009, 12:46 PM
It definatley wouldn't hurt to work these guy's out, But I have to ask .Does Vinnie really dig to find the diamond in the ruff players, or does he just listen to Mel Kiper Jr ?

well i dont think mel said anything about chris horton last year soo i think its more of vinny getting lucky picking him

SmootSmack
03-11-2009, 01:41 PM
Edwin Williams (OL-Maryland)
Victor Butler (LB-Oregon State, I think)
David Veikune (DE-Hawaii)

FRPLG
03-11-2009, 02:12 PM
Rodney Landers (QB-JMU)

Given the chance he's the next Bryan Westbrook. The guy is ridiculous. Edwards got all the hype in I-AA for athletic QBs but Landers is just as good if not better. He's a RB at the next level in my opinion.

That Guy
03-11-2009, 02:30 PM
vinnie definitely listens to mel though, they're friends...

i don't think anyone should sell a future UDFA prospect as a top 10 WR though. every year there are WRs that slip through, or some 6'6' guy that can't really play, and every year they come into someone's camp and get cut, ending their cup of coffee NFL careers.

we'll see what happens, but I would caution against overselling guys that aren't even in the top 250. more than likely 1 or less of the guys in this thread will be noteworthy 3 years from now. that doesn't mean they aren't worth a look, just that the odds are that it'll be a waste of time.

Dirtbag59
03-11-2009, 02:48 PM
I say anyone thats a backup at USC. They're cheap, good enough to be on USC, and on top of that they got low mileage.

SFREDSKIN
03-11-2009, 02:58 PM
Worrell Williams LB Cal Berkeley (Brother of DJ Williams, Broncos LB)
Rulon Davis DE Cal Berkeley
Dan Grankowski TE Maryland

SmootSmack
03-11-2009, 03:20 PM
I say anyone thats a backup at USC. They're cheap, good enough to be on USC, and on top of that they got low mileage.

Kyle Moore! and the other LB!

freddyg12
03-11-2009, 04:02 PM
Great thread nick! I love reading about the late round/undrafted guys cause I don't know much about them until draft time.

I'll go w/what I know, my Hokies:

1) Orion Martin, DE, He's only 6'2 , 250, maybe smaller, so he's projected as 5th-6th round if that. He came on at the end of the year, has room for improvement as he was a late bloomer & might be just on the cusp. He's known as a mature (is 23) guy & highly regarded by his coaches & team.

I think he'll make it in the nfl if he's put in the right position, I just don't know if that's 4-3 DE or OLB in a 3-4? Worth our 6th IMO.

2) Purnell Sturdivant, ILB. He would be a good pickup if he goes undrafted. Might develop as a solid MLB, but probably no better than Blades.

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