How long do you keep Devin Thomas and Malcolm Kelly if they don't produce?

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GTripp0012
03-11-2009, 12:45 AM
Well, I don't know that we needed to add essentially three WRs. But I think the goal was to get a strong #2 to enhance Moss' presence as the #1 WR. That said, I personally think the should move Moss out of here a year too early rather than a year too late.

But I sort of envision (hope?) that this season, by the end of the first month, Kelly is firmly entrenched as the #2 WR. Sort of like the Keyshawn Johnson type that gets a lot of key catches, while DT is the gamebreaker. Not as many catches, but big plays.

Thrash should be gone. And yeah I have no idea where ARE falls into it all. And that doesn't even take into account Cooley or Davis...or Portis for that matter.The fact that we didn't try to extend Santana's deal is pretty damning evidence to the fact that the team is leaving their options open if not actively shopping him though.

I thought he might yield a second round pick, but next year will be his age 30 season, and the market is absolutely flooded with veteran WRs, most of which are more consistent and less injury prone than Moss.

So with that said, its hard for me to see a situation where we get fair value for Moss, at least before the draft. If anything, a draft day deal seems most likely.

The fact that Golston got the 2nd round tender makes it really obvious that they intend to deal him at some point this offseason.

Ruhskins
03-11-2009, 01:11 AM
The fact that we didn't try to extend Santana's deal is pretty damning evidence to the fact that the team is leaving their options open if not actively shopping him though.

I thought he might yield a second round pick, but next year will be his age 30 season, and the market is absolutely flooded with veteran WRs, most of which are more consistent and less injury prone than Moss.

So with that said, its hard for me to see a situation where we get fair value for Moss, at least before the draft. If anything, a draft day deal seems most likely.

The fact that Golston got the 2nd round tender makes it really obvious that they intend to deal him at some point this offseason.

Well New England did trade a 5th round pick for Greg Lewis. I'm going to go out on a limb and say that Santana Moss is much better than Greg Lewis (who's the same age as Santana) and would be worth a higher round pick. Now at this point I don't think he should be traded of course.

GTripp0012
03-11-2009, 01:14 AM
Um, good point. Greg Lewis is trash.

Belichick is up to something. Maybe he just wants to prove to Reid that even a team with Greg Lewis on it can win the super bowl?

Quick, without looking it up: Name Greg Lewis' college receiving corps partner

Ruhskins
03-11-2009, 01:20 AM
Um, good point. Greg Lewis is trash.

Belichick is up to something. Maybe he just wants to prove to Reid that even a team with Greg Lewis on it can win the super bowl?

Quick, without looking it up: Name Greg Lewis' college receiving corps partner

Honestly I don't know what he's up to, because they could've waited until Torry Holt got released.

A few threads back somebody was saying that the Lions are not dumb enough to trade their second 1st rounder (#20) and their 2nd rounder for our #13...well now that I've seen this Greg Lewis trade, I think anything is possible.

GTripp0012
03-11-2009, 01:28 AM
I understand that the Rams offense has been a giant vortex of suck over the last two years, but I must say that Torry Holt's days of being a great, or even an average NFL receiver are in the past. He can't get off a jam to save his life, and he's just not blazing fast anymore, which makes the fact that he's never been a great route runner more obvious.

Holt still has fantastic hands, so somebody will find a place for him, but he doesn't really change the dynamic of your receiving corps, and hopefully, won't be paid like such. He'd be a really interesting slot receiver, but I'm wondering how his ego would take that.

Ruhskins
03-11-2009, 01:38 AM
I understand that the Rams offense has been a giant vortex of suck over the last two years, but I must say that Torry Holt's days of being a great, or even an average NFL receiver are in the past. He can't get off a jam to save his life, and he's just not blazing fast anymore, which makes the fact that he's never been a great route runner more obvious.

Holt still has fantastic hands, so somebody will find a place for him, but he doesn't really change the dynamic of your receiving corps, and hopefully, won't be paid like such. He'd be a really interesting slot receiver, but I'm wondering how his ego would take that.

Well the Pats were not looking for a #1 or #2 (Moss and Welker are doing that already), but I could've seen him as their #3 receiver. Holt may have pulled a Springs and play cheap for the chance of a title as well. Honestly, I don't see Holt as a #2 receiver anywhere as well, but I could see him here as a replacement for Thrash.

wilsowilso
03-11-2009, 03:12 AM
Let's see what happens you bitches? Mr. Thomas? Mr. Kelly? Bitches..........

terpsez11
03-11-2009, 08:17 AM
OK - lets say the Skins get the same type of production out of Devin Thomas and Malcolm Kelly this year as they did last. At some point potential has to turn into production and if these two have similar seasons like they did last year how much longer do you keep them on the roster? I know many say WR's need a couple of seasons to develop so I am curious as to how long do the Skins wait for them to produce - 2 years, 3 years, 4 or more?

linking them together is a real mistake..Kelly was hurt..and Thomas improved like a 2nd round receiver..since when do rookies contribute at wideout?..Desean Jackson at Philly caught almost every pass on the same damn McNabb scramble play where he slanted across every seam and was the safety valve..on third down..and he dropped a mess of passes

when will the Skins get some consistent production at QB?...so we can adequately judge the rest of the Offense..people blast our O-linemen and our receiver corp..when it is Jason that plays like he thinks he is still in the SEC

Lotus
03-11-2009, 08:32 AM
linking them together is a real mistake..Kelly was hurt..and Thomas improved like a 2nd round receiver..since when do rookies contribute at wideout?..Desean Jackson at Philly caught almost every pass on the same damn McNabb scramble play where he slanted across every seam and was the safety valve..on third down..and he dropped a mess of passes

when will the Skins get some consistent production at QB?...so we can adequately judge the rest of the Offense..people blast our O-linemen and our receiver corp..when it is Jason that plays like he thinks he is still in the SEC

DeSean Jackson also gave up a TD by spiking the ball before he was in the end zone.

terpsez11
03-11-2009, 08:54 AM
DeSean Jackson also gave up a TD by spiking the ball before he was in the end zone.

I wasn't trashing Jackson..the Eagles were so desperate at Wideout they had to rush the kid..something Zorn didn't have to do with Antwaan and Santana


if all things remain the same..DeSean will no doubt be a standout..but we would definitely be leary and scrutinizing any receiver that dropped as many balls

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