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Lotus 03-10-2009, 09:39 PM Thats kind of the point, Randel El will no longer be used if the young guys improve. If only Moss could return all the punts too...
Maybe ARE would be a better punt returner if that were his only job.
steveo395 03-10-2009, 09:46 PM This is what I don't get. Why did we spend two high draft picks on #3 and #4 receivers? We already had #3 and #4 receivers. With their size and athleticism, one of them should be the #1 receiver. When they chosen, I don't remember anyone saying, "Good. We finally have those #3 and #4 receivers, we've been wanting". No. The talk was all about how Santana would handle being demoted.
They are only expected to be #3 and #4 receivers this year. Hopefully one of them will be able to become a #1, but most likely it is not going to happen this year. It takes time.
SmootSmack 03-10-2009, 09:48 PM This is what I don't get. Why did we spend two high draft picks on #3 and #4 receivers? We already had #3 and #4 receivers. With their size and athleticism, one of them should be the #1 receiver. When they chosen, I don't remember anyone saying, "Good. We finally have those #3 and #4 receivers, we've been wanting". No. The talk was all about how Santana would handle being demoted.
Well, I don't know that we needed to add essentially three WRs. But I think the goal was to get a strong #2 to enhance Moss' presence as the #1 WR. That said, I personally think the should move Moss out of here a year too early rather than a year too late.
But I sort of envision (hope?) that this season, by the end of the first month, Kelly is firmly entrenched as the #2 WR. Sort of like the Keyshawn Johnson type that gets a lot of key catches, while DT is the gamebreaker. Not as many catches, but big plays.
Thrash should be gone. And yeah I have no idea where ARE falls into it all. And that doesn't even take into account Cooley or Davis...or Portis for that matter.
70Chip 03-10-2009, 10:38 PM Well, I don't know that we needed to add essentially three WRs. But I think the goal was to get a strong #2 to enhance Moss' presence as the #1 WR. That said, I personally think the should move Moss out of here a year too early rather than a year too late.
But I sort of envision (hope?) that this season, by the end of the first month, Kelly is firmly entrenched as the #2 WR. Sort of like the Keyshawn Johnson type that gets a lot of key catches, while DT is the gamebreaker. Not as many catches, but big plays.
Thrash should be gone. And yeah I have no idea where ARE falls into it all. And that doesn't even take into account Cooley or Davis...or Portis for that matter.
I hope they both turn out to be great. I hope you get to rub it in my face because if they do play well, we will be a solid team. To me, WR was by far our greatest weakness. If we could have averaged 24 or 25 points a game last year(which is good but not great), we would have won 11 or 12 easily. Maybe more.
I agree about Thrash. I hate to see him go, but if he's still here next season, it's a bad sign.
As for Moss, I think he has a couple of seasons left, IF he is not the primary weapon. If you have another threat at WR, Moss has the potential to blow up at any time because of single coverage. He's still has explosiveness. It might allow him to be healthier and fresher for the end of the season.
GMScud 03-10-2009, 11:25 PM GTripp will argue ARE's contributions big time.
Thrash is true leader. In fact, it's my understanding that Thrash and ARE are the two biggest spiritual leaders on the team. I get it that on the field production is ultimately what matters, but I think it losing Thrash and eventually ARE will hurt the locker room.
It's an interesting topic really. Gibbs was all about the locker room. Our best leaders are arguably Randy Thomas, James Thrash, ARE, and Fletcher. All of those guys are nearing the end of their tenures with the Redskins I think. We're going to need some new leaders to emerge sooner rather than later.
Redskin Jim 03-10-2009, 11:40 PM From his comments i think the point is kelly and thomas should be passing thrash and randel in the depth chart. So by seasons end if these guys arent the 2nd and 3rd option something is wrong. Them maturing and campbell being in the second year of the same offense we can expect those numbers.
Bingo! That is what they were brought in to do... Time to step up boys...
Redskin Jim 03-10-2009, 11:44 PM Maybe ARE would be a better punt returner if that were his only job.
Not likely.. ARE is done as a punt returner, mark my words, D. Thomas or the new kid from the cfl is the wave of the future.. I really like ARE as a Skin but his days are numbered.. don't count on him to be here after this season.
Lotus 03-10-2009, 11:50 PM Not likely.. ARE is done as a punt returner, mark my words, D. Thomas or the new kid from the cfl is the wave of the future.. I really like ARE as a Skin but his days are numbered.. don't count on him to be here after this season.
I don't disagree with you about the other options for punt returner. I was simply pointing to history - ARE was a better returner when that was his main job.
Personally I'd like to see what Devin Thomas can do. And let's face it, they didn't bring that boy from the CFL for nothing.
Redskin Jim 03-10-2009, 11:55 PM I don't disagree with you about the other options for punt returner. I was simply pointing to history - ARE was a better returner when that was his main job.
Personally I'd like to see what Devin Thomas can do. And let's face it, they didn't bring that boy from the CFL for nothing.
Agreed. I think that Zorn needs to put the young guys in a possition to grow and succeed.. By that I mean play them. There WILL be mistakes, but, that is how they will learn their roles and progress..
Lotus 03-11-2009, 12:01 AM Agreed. I think that Zorn needs to put the young guys in a possition to grow and succeed.. By that I mean play them. There WILL be mistakes, but, that is how they will learn their roles and progress..
You are correct. There will be mistakes.
But there also might be a Devin Thomas dance in that new end zone in Dallas. :lol:
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