How long do you keep Devin Thomas and Malcolm Kelly if they don't produce?

Santana Moss on Devin Thomas, "I think his future is bright, if he stays focused and just lets me talk to him a little more, he'll be all right." If he's smart and listens to Tana, he's good, if not, he may be out the door in a year or two. He has the talent. Malcolm Kelly is who I look for to make the biggest impact if he can stay healthy. I'm not ready to start thinking of giving up on either one just yet.

See, to me this isn't a positive. He "thinks his future is bright," but he's not sure (no one really is sure at this point I guess). Then he says "if he stays focused," which means he hasn't been focused prior, and if he "just lets me talk to him a little more," which means Thomas wasn't previously very receptive of Santana's advice. This is pretty far from a glowing endorsement IMO.

Their performance is partly predicated on the performance of the coaching staff, specifically coach Zorn. I'm hoping they each get at least 400 yards this coming season, and baller numbers the season after that. If not, I'm sure we'll be hearing the fat lady sing.

The duration of their contracts.

The duration of their contracts.

I actually agree with this. I wouldn't cut them, I would let them play out their contracts and see if they ever live up to being a 2nd round draft pick. I don't care if it's year 4, teams can't be in the business of throwing away draft picks like that.

For the record: I think we'll see improvement from each of these two this year.

They need to produce this season. The reason is that if they don't, pressure will start to mount from the fans to send Vinny down the road. It goes to Vinny before it goes to Zorn. The press likes Zorn but they think Vinny is a d-bag and a stooge. He willl not survive if these two both blow up on the pad, as it were.

He's still a punch line, yes. I guess he's been trying to step up this offseason, but apparently it was so bad last season, he'll continue to get his balls busted until he does something on the field.

well that could actually work in our favor. Hopefully his being a punch line and the fact that Kelly has made strides will help motivate him to improve his own game.

They need to produce this season. The reason is that if they don't, pressure will start to mount from the fans to send Vinny down the road. It goes to Vinny before it goes to Zorn. The press likes Zorn but they think Vinny is a d-bag and a stooge. He willl not survive if these two both blow up on the pad, as it were.

The press doesnt own the redskins - daniel snyder does. The only person Cerrato and Zorn really need to please is him.

The team needs to play to it's individual strengths also. If Thomas is nothing but a run straight down the field type of player then they need to utilize that. Send him on speed routes. I know Moss is currently doing that but teams will be baffled as to double teaming Moss and covering Thomas. Then use either Randel El or Kelly on other routes.

If it takes 2-3 yrs for a WR to develope and come into his own, which people are saying of two possible 1st rounders in Kelly and Thomas, then why didn't we keep some of the other WR's we had last yr to develope them? Heck I went on NFL.com and checked the WR's and I can only find McMullen who is available.

Maurice Mann:CFL.ca (http://www.cfl.ca/roster/show/id/1336)

Also I can't find Marcus Monk any where. The Giants picked him up then cut him. He was somone who was supposed to possibly make it somewhere.

If you play them all preseason, they will be fine for the regular season. The real question is when will we see the mythical double tight end formation featuring Fred Davis and Chris Cooley in the redzone.

i dont consider it fair to CUT them, when we really dont give them a chance to produce as much as we'd like to see.... it has A WHOLE LOT to do with the play -calling and the QB, i still say give them more time even if this year isnt thier greatest